Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

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Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by Renae Mae Hoje » Fri, 03 Feb 1995 04:26:05



I have a 3 1/2 month old male budgie. I would like to get him a friend
but I am scared that if I get another then neither of them will ever
talk. I would probably get another male. I have heard that of you get
more than one then they just chirp at each other and won't talk. Is this
true???

I know that talking isn't supposed to be the basis on buying a bird, but
in this case it is. I would like a second one, but not if it is goind to
affect my first one's talking ability.

Thanks-

Renae

 
 
 

Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by Dusty (the 'ti » Fri, 03 Feb 1995 05:23:03



Quote:

>I know that talking isn't supposed to be the basis on buying a bird, but
>in this case it is.

Renae

I hope you don't feel bad, here.

You didn't really buy the bird to hear it talk, did you?  Maybe that was
one of the reasons that you decided on a bird as opposed to another pet,
but my guess is that you wanted a companion of some sort and it was a
big plus if the cute little sucker could also converse with you! :)

You shouldn't feel "shallow" if a talking bird is a high priority with
you.  Actually, that's probably pretty common.

I think the problem is that if you feel disappointed in the bird
if he/she doesn't talk, then the bird will realize that you don't
like him/her so much anymore.  

I'm serious.  The bird will sense your emotions.  

And the bird will feel bad.

And the bird will lose his/her self-esteem.

And the bird will bite you.

And you will deserve it, then.

So ....

        keep talking to your birdie buddy.  

Someone else will have to help you with whether having another bird
will stop your little one from talking.  I'm just a single birdie and
I really don't have any compelling reason to talk.  Actually, most of
the time I don't even have to tweet.  My human and I communicate
telepathically:)

I still get petted every morning and night from my human, though.

Take care, Renae

Dusty
__________________________________
I CAN FLY, I CAN FLY
snip, snip
Oops, shouldn't have yelled that.
________________________________

 
 
 

Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by Patrick Nun » Sat, 04 Feb 1995 00:03:51


I wrote a message to Renae Mae Hojer under the guise of Dusty (the 'tiel).

Well, I received a *** email message in response to it.  Maybe I didn't
make myself clear.  Anyways the person requested a public apology to the
group for flaming her.

I did not mean this as a flame to Renae and I do apologize if that is how it
came across.  If that is the case, tehn let me explain myself more.

Here was my post (in case some of you can't retrieve it)

Quote:

>>I know that talking isn't supposed to be the basis on buying a bird, but
>>in this case it is.

>Renae

>I hope you don't feel bad, here.

>You didn't really buy the bird to hear it talk, did you?  Maybe that was
>one of the reasons that you decided on a bird as opposed to another pet,
>but my guess is that you wanted a companion of some sort and it was a
>big plus if the cute little sucker could also converse with you! :)

Note the smiley, please.  Maybe I shouldn't have presumed to have known
why Renae bought a bird.

Quote:
>You shouldn't feel "shallow" if a talking bird is a high priority with
>you.  Actually, that's probably pretty common.

I met this as a little pat on the back to Renae because it appeared that
she felt guilty about wanting a bird to talk.  I DID NOT MEAN THIS AS
A REPRIMAND.  I'm sorry Renae!

Now this next part probably is where the "flame" concept came from.
If that is true, then I guess it is a flame.  If Renae won't like her
bird because it doesn't talk, then it IS A FLAME.  

BUT, I don't think this is the case with her.  

Quote:

>I think the problem is that if you feel disappointed in the bird
>if he/she doesn't talk, then the bird will realize that you don't
>like him/her so much anymore.  

>I'm serious.  The bird will sense your emotions.  

>And the bird will feel bad.

>And the bird will lose his/her self-esteem.

>And the bird will bite you.

>And you will deserve it, then.

>So ....

>        keep talking to your birdie buddy.  

>Someone else will have to help you with whether having another bird
>will stop your little one from talking.  I'm just a single birdie and
>I really don't have any compelling reason to talk.  Actually, most of
>the time I don't even have to tweet.  My human and I communicate
>telepathically:)

>I still get petted every morning and night from my human, though.

>Take care, Renae

>Dusty

This person also suggested that I get professional help if I really am
sincere about being a bird.  Well, I started doing this 'cause I thought
it would be funny.  I got some email messages that indicated that some
people liked it, so I kept doing it.  

Anyways, I wouldn't mind being a bird for real.  :)

Think I'll pass on that professional help.

Patrick Nunez

 
 
 

Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by jane rossman lyt » Sat, 04 Feb 1995 06:39:34


To Dusty and Patrick  - I just want you two to know that *I* for
one think you are both wonderful and certainly hope you won't let
one sour apple keep you from sending your delightful posts.  I
guess "Renae" just doesn't realize how cool you really are.

Jane ( a Dusty fan)

 
 
 

Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by cor.. » Sat, 04 Feb 1995 06:43:24



Quote:

>I have a 3 1/2 month old male budgie. I would like to get him a friend
>but I am scared that if I get another then neither of them will ever
>talk. I would probably get another male. I have heard that of you get
>more than one then they just chirp at each other and won't talk. Is this
>true???

>I know that talking isn't supposed to be the basis on buying a bird, but
>in this case it is. I would like a second one, but not if it is goind to
>affect my first one's talking ability.

Snow and Ice will probably never talk anything other than 'keet.  Unfortunately
both my wife and I are out during the day for about 7-9 hours straight.  That
is why we got two.  Had to sacrifice the talking to keep the bird company when
we are gone.  Believe me once we are home the babbys get all the attention that
they might have missed while we were gone.  They are happy birds and have
provided many hours of entertainment for the both of us.  Ice changes his
shade of blue with each molt sometimes an iridecent blue.  Just checking
the molted feathers is fun.  Dean    JDC
 
 
 

Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by Sakir Humayun Gultek » Sat, 04 Feb 1995 13:07:01


Quote:

>I wrote a message to Renae Mae Hojer under the guise of Dusty (the 'tiel).

>Well, I received a *** email message in response to it.  Maybe I didn't
>make myself clear.  Anyways the person requested a public apology to the
>group for flaming her.

>I did not mean this as a flame to Renae and I do apologize if that is how
it
>came across.  If that is the case, tehn let me explain myself more.

- Well, I agree that parts of your message sounded a little bit less
liberal than your usual style, Dusty. Y'know people have preferences and
you shouldn't judge them (unless they are truly out of limits, like using
soldering iron..oh please do not start again folks, this is a joke)  

Quote:
>This person also suggested that I get professional help if I really am  
>sincere about being a bird.  

- NOOOOO.

Quote:
>Anyways, I wouldn't mind being a bird for real.  :)

- Good for you.

Quote:
>Think I'll pass on that professional help.

- Good for you again

We still love Dusty the-tiel,
Zeynep the-human&Erik the-lutino&Karadut the-gray&Humayun
the-dictator(oops, I mean the-husband)

 
 
 

Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by Lisa15 » Sun, 05 Feb 1995 04:18:24


We have two young budgies (in love no less).  One talks like a fool (he
imitates that Quaker, not us), and the other patiently listens, tucks her
head under he wing, and when he finally wears her down, she ***es him
out.  He is shameless and normally doesn't stop.  I do think that having
two together lessens their interest in humans, after all, they have each
other.
 
 
 

Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by Dawn Bustano » Sun, 05 Feb 1995 08:15:04


Patrick,

I read your (Dusty's) post when it was posted and it did not seem at all
flaming to me.  If the person you were responding to *felt* flamed, I'm
guessing that it was a reaction to their own feelings about wanting a
talking bird.  I don't think you were flaming at all.

Second, I agree with you that the bird may know it's unloved.

Third, to the original poster,if you want your budgie to talk, you do
need to wait before getting a second bird (or it will never feel a need
to learn "human")

Forth, if a talking bird was that high of a priority, a budgie wasn't the
best choice.  Some budgies are fabulpus talkers, but they are the
minority.  Many, many pet budgies *never* learn to talk.

Finally, birds usuallu only learn to talk if they are socialized and want
attention/raise from their humans.  If this budgie isn't already loved
and played with now, it won't have much reason to pick up speech.  Of
course, we will assume that the budgie's person knows this and plays with
the bird already.

If I've offended, flame away (but do take it to email so the rest of the
group won't need to read it).  I do think the original poster was a
little over-sensitive.

Patrick,  do be careful not to let your guise as a 'tiel make you feel
safe about saying things you wouldn't say as a human, though.  :)

 Dawn

 
 
 

Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by Patrick Nun » Tue, 07 Feb 1995 21:24:54



Quote:
>To Dusty and Patrick  - I just want you two to know that *I* for
>one think you are both wonderful and certainly hope you won't let
>one sour apple keep you from sending your delightful posts.  I
>guess "Renae" just doesn't realize how cool you really are.

>Jane ( a Dusty fan)

Thank you very much, Jane, I appreciate the support.

To keep things straight, though, it was not Renae that was upset at me.

Patrick (nearabouts Detroit, where it is very cold this morning.)

 
 
 

Q: Getting a Second Budgie....

Post by prfl.. » Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:45:47



Quote:

>Forth, if a talking bird was that high of a priority, a budgie wasn't the
>best choice.  Some budgies are fabulpus talkers, but they are the
>minority.  Many, many pet budgies *never* learn to talk.

I have a budgie that can probably beat some amazons and Greys!  I have
read similar stories in Bird Talk.  I think you touched on this where
I snipped, but it is how you treat your budgie, whether it talks
or not.  Perry, my talking budgie is in a room with 2 lovebirds  (seperate
cages, of course).  I also have 2 other budgies in another room.  I occasionally
let Perry play with my other 2 birds.  Perry talks becasue he is treated
like a member of the family.  He watches tv with me, eats with me, does
homework with me, etc...  As long as the birds are housed seperatly
(together they will jabber in "bugdie" rather than english) and you treat the
bird as a member of the family, I don't see why one or both wouldn't
learn to talk.
My 2 cents.
STacy