Pionus Owners... some basic questions?!?

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Pionus Owners... some basic questions?!?

Post by Aaron Birenbo » Thu, 13 Jul 1995 04:00:00



:   I was wondering however,
: what kind of temperament I'm dealing with.

Pionus are among the calmest, low-strung (as opposed to high-strung)
parrots.

:  I have had great success in the
: past of raising(calming) both lovebirds and quakers into lovely
: companions when others have had little success (with lovebirds).

Pionus tend to be quite calm naturally.  They should be a breeze.

:   Do they make friendly companions?

extremely.  I've never been greeted by a bird with as much enthusiasm
as my pionus.  My***atoo craves more attention in general, but he does not
go 'nuts' like my pionus did when i got home.

: For example, I don't generally like to keep my bird in a
: cage (I have a jungle gym for it).

OK... but I recommend against this.  Especially since my pionus had
a taste for electrical cords.

:  My last bird would hop on me to wake me up
: the morning, waddle into the room I was in....

I had a ladder on my pionus cage, and he would descend and walk over
to me for attention.  He would also go home on his own when he was done.
However, again, I discourage this unless you are watching the bird whenever
it has freedom to leave the cage.

:  What kind of diet does a Pionus have?

Standard parrot diet...  but my breeder recommended a higher percentage
ov veggies than some other parrots.

:  Also, are they
: talkers...

yes, but their voices are not clear.  in general they will have less
vocabulary than a gray, amazon, or mccaw, but may have better vocabulary
than many***atoos.
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Pionus Owners... some basic questions?!?

Post by frederic mouli » Thu, 13 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Pete! By all means,get a Pionus!  I have handfed many Blueheaded Pionus,
and the love of my life is a 3yr old Blueheaded named Jinx.  He says
"hello", "I'm a chicken, bock,bock" and makes up his own words.  He
laughs appropriately at television, conversation, etc.,and has quite an
operatic trill in the shower--mine loves water.  He is not destructive or
overly loud, but is quite curious and likes to be where the action is.  
Pionus love fruits of almost any kind (NO AVOCADO--toxic) as well as
juices, veggies, seed mix and whatever you happen to have on your plate.
 I strongly suggest getting a handfed baby and finishing the handfeeding
yourself.  Be sure to introduce a variety of nutritious foods and love
liberally.  You'll wonder how you ever lived without one!!!!!
 
 
 

Pionus Owners... some basic questions?!?

Post by frederic mouli » Thu, 13 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Pete! By all means,get a Pionus!  I have handfed many Blueheaded Pionus,
and the love of my life is a 3yr old Blueheaded named Jinx.  He says
"hello", "I'm a chicken, bock,bock" and makes up his own words.  He
laughs appropriately at television, conversation, etc.,and has quite an

Quote:

>I am considering getting a Pionus as a companion.  I was wondering however,
>what kind of temperament I'm dealing with.  I have had great success in the
>past of raising(calming) both lovebirds and quakers into lovely companions when
>others have had little success (with lovebirds).  Partly because of the time
>I'm willing to invest.  How much different is it with a Pionus.  Do they make
>friendly companions?  For example, I don't generally like to keep my bird in a
>cage (I have a jungle gym for it).  My last bird would hop on me to wake me up
>the morning, waddle into the room I was in if I didn't greet it upon returning
>home, take walks on my shoulder, and perch on the drives side car seat when I
>went for a drive.  What kind of diet does a Pionus have?  Also, are they
>talkers... what kind of vocabulary have you taught yours.  Any info you have
>would be helpful.

>thanks.
>Pete Beaty


>I am considering getting a Pionus as a companion.  I was wondering however,
>what kind of temperament I'm dealing with.  I have had great success in the
>past of raising(calming) both lovebirds and quakers into lovely companions when
>others have had little success (with lovebirds).  Partly because of the time
>I'm willing to invest.  How much different is it with a Pionus.  Do they make
>friendly companions?  For example, I don't generally like to keep my bird in a
>cage (I have a jungle gym for it).  My last bird would hop on me to wake me up
>the morning, waddle into the room I was in if I didn't greet it upon returning
>home, take walks on my shoulder, and perch on the drives side car seat when I
>went for a drive.  What kind of diet does a Pionus have?  Also, are they
>talkers... what kind of vocabulary have you taught yours.  Any info you have
>would be helpful.

>thanks.
>Pete Beaty

 loves water.  He is not destructive or
overly loud, but is quite curious and likes to be where the action is.  
Pionus love fruits of almost any kind (NO AVOCADO--toxic) as well as
juices, veggies, seed mix and whatever you happen to have on your plate.
 I strongly suggest getting a handfed baby and finishing the handfeeding
yourself.  Be sure to introduce a variety of nutritious foods and love
liberally.  You'll wonder how you ever lived without one!!!!!
 
 
 

Pionus Owners... some basic questions?!?

Post by b.. » Mon, 17 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

>  I am considering getting a Pionus as a companion.  I was wondering however,
>  what kind of temperament I'm dealing with.  I have had great success in the
>  past of raising(calming) both lovebirds and quakers into lovely companions when
>  others have had little success (with lovebirds).  Partly because of the time
>  I'm willing to invest.  How much different is it with a Pionus.  Do they make
>  friendly companions?  For example, I don't generally like to keep my bird in a
>  cage (I have a jungle gym for it).  My last bird would hop on me to wake me up
>  the morning, waddle into the room I was in if I didn't greet it upon returning
>  home, take walks on my shoulder, and perch on the drives side car seat when I
>  went for a drive.  What kind of diet does a Pionus have?  Also, are they
>  talkers... what kind of vocabulary have you taught yours.  Any info you have
>  would be helpful.

>  thanks.
>  Pete Beaty

I love my Pionus had him (I think) for 10 years. He is very intelligent and was supposed to talk but doesn't.

bres

 
 
 

Pionus Owners... some basic questions?!?

Post by masti.. » Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Quote:


> >  I am considering getting a Pionus as a companion.  I was wondering
however,
> >  what kind of temperament I'm dealing with.

BIG SNIP
  What kind of diet does a Pionus have?  Also, are they
Quote:
> >  talkers... what kind of vocabulary have you taught yours.  Any info
you have
> >  would be helpful.

> >  thanks.
> >  Pete Beaty

> I love my Pionus had him (I think) for 10 years. He is very intelligent

and was supposed to talk but doesn't.

Quote:

> bres

Hey, all!
I just visited a friend who breeds birds and have fallen hard for the
beauty of the blueheaded Pionus.  He just got an unproven pair.  They
are prettier than the pictures I've seen (and the only baby I ever saw).
Not sure I can stand to wait till his have babies.  I have been wanting
a smallish parrot for almost 2 years now.  Never waited so long, or did
so much research upfront, before.

He says they are a bit less likely to nip than the African species, a
consideration for me (till now I thought I was sure the Jardine's was
the best bird for me).  He wasn't too sure of prices, thought they'd
cost about the same as the Jardine's.  Any ideas?

How do they compare by weight to a Jardine's when mature?  How many
subspecies are there?  An old "Bird Talk" I found said there is a lot
of variation in the coloration.  I want that really INTENSE blue (hey,
I have INTENSE red hair, myself...).

What is a comfortable cage size for a Pionus?  One whose person works a
lot but will spend quality time at the computer and any other quiet time
at home....

More info, more, more!  Please?   thanks!

                ...laurie
           Mother Mastiff

 
 
 

Pionus Owners... some basic questions?!?

Post by Bruce & Alicia McWatter » Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:00:00



Quote:



>> >  I am considering getting a Pionus as a companion.  I was
wondering

>however,

>> >  what kind of temperament I'm dealing with.
>BIG SNIP
>  What kind of diet does a Pionus have?  Also, are they

>> >  talkers... what kind of vocabulary have you taught yours.  Any
info

>you have

>> >  would be helpful.

>> >  thanks.

>> >  Pete Beaty

>> I love my Pionus had him (I think) for 10 years. He is very
intelligent

>and was supposed to talk but doesn't.

>> bres

>Hey, all!
>I just visited a friend who breeds birds and have fallen hard for the
>beauty of the blueheaded Pionus.  He just got an unproven pair.  They
>are prettier than the pictures I've seen (and the only baby I ever
saw).
>Not sure I can stand to wait till his have babies.  I have been
wanting
>a smallish parrot for almost 2 years now.  Never waited so long, or
did
>so much research upfront, before.

>He says they are a bit less likely to nip than the African species, a
>consideration for me (till now I thought I was sure the Jardine's was
>the best bird for me).  He wasn't too sure of prices, thought they'd
>cost about the same as the Jardine's.  Any ideas?

>How do they compare by weight to a Jardine's when mature?  How many
>subspecies are there?  An old "Bird Talk" I found said there is a lot
>of variation in the coloration.  I want that really INTENSE blue (hey,
>I have INTENSE red hair, myself...).

>What is a comfortable cage size for a Pionus?  One whose person works
a
>lot but will spend quality time at the computer and any other quiet
time
>at home....

>More info, more, more!  Please?   thanks!

>                ...laurie
>           Mother Mastiff

    Hi laurie,

    The pionus genus is a wonderful group of birds which I think you
will find many qualities to admire. Their exquisite coloration which
you are discovering now and their endearing personality you may soon
experience by ownership! The height range of the pionus is between 9-11
inches. The BH seems to be a favorite for a large number of pionus
owners.
    In comparison to the poicephalus group I must say that the African
Red-bellied parrot, a cousin to the Jardine, is also high on my list of
favorite parrots. I have not found the hand-fed tame individuals nippy
or unappealing in any way. Their talking ability is also a recognizable
quality, which is superior to the pionus in my experience. (Pionus are
not the best talkers, but can immitate household sounds VERY well, can
whistle well, and say a gravelly word or two). As far as the
poicephalus genus, I can only speak for the Red-bellied species. You
may wish to talk to several owners of the Jardines for more specific
info on this species. Keep in mind, ANY bird can become a biter if its
treatment and environment are incorrect and if discipline and
understanding are not provided.
    In size, the Jardine is comparable to the pionus and at a distant
glance could be mistaken for a maximilian. Very similar body type and
somewhat similar coloration. Last I heard the price range for a Jardine
was in the $600.00 range which is on average the price of a pionus,
more or less, depending on the species of your interest. A BH would be
in this range for example.
    The cage dimensions we recommend is 2'x 2'x 3' minimum. Bar spacing
no more than 1 inch apart. Perch dimension 1 1/2 inches in diameter as
an average. Natural preferred.
    Pionus are in general very good-natured, independent birds and can
occupy their time playing on their own quite well, but also enjoy time
and attention with their owners. A cage with an open-up play area on
top is ideal.
    Hope this helps. If further info is needed let me know.

    Alicia

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Pionus Owners... some basic questions?!?

Post by Alicia Eckle » Sat, 22 Jul 1995 04:00:00


I have a 3-year-old blue head and he is GREAT! Mostly calm, sweet
and entertaining.  Says about 30 words and phrases, most quite
clearly. Is moody and difficult when in breeding season (about 2
months), but everyone has moods. He plays on top of his cage, on his
playpen and just about anywhere I am. Would love to spend as much
time with me as possible, but also plays by himself quite
contentedly. He's much tamer than most lovebirds I've met. Never
screamed until I rescued a conure, but is still pretty quiet. I
really can't recommend them highly enough.

Good luck,

--
Alicia

 
 
 

Pionus Owners... some basic questions?!?

Post by masti.. » Tue, 25 Jul 1995 04:00:00



writes:
My long queries about Pionus and comparison to Jardine's snipped...

Quote:
>     Hi laurie,

>     The pionus genus is a wonderful group of birds which I think you
> will find many qualities to admire. Their exquisite coloration which
> you are discovering now and their endearing personality you may soon
> experience by ownership! The height range of the pionus is between 9-11
> inches. The BH seems to be a favorite for a large number of pionus
> owners.
>     In comparison to the poicephalus group I must say that the African
> Red-bellied parrot, a cousin to the Jardine, is also high on my list of
> favorite parrots. I have not found the hand-fed tame individuals nippy
> or unappealing in any way. Their talking ability is also a recognizable
> quality, which is superior to the pionus in my experience. (Pionus are
> not the best talkers, but can immitate household sounds VERY well, can
> whistle well, and say a gravelly word or two). As far as the
> poicephalus genus, I can only speak for the Red-bellied species. You
> may wish to talk to several owners of the Jardines for more specific
> info on this species. Keep in mind, ANY bird can become a biter if its
> treatment and environment are incorrect and if discipline and
> understanding are not provided.
>     In size, the Jardine is comparable to the pionus and at a distant
> glance could be mistaken for a maximilian. Very similar body type and
> somewhat similar coloration. Last I heard the price range for a Jardine
> was in the $600.00 range which is on average the price of a pionus,
> more or less, depending on the species of your interest. A BH would be
> in this range for example.
>     The cage dimensions we recommend is 2'x 2'x 3' minimum. Bar spacing
> no more than 1 inch apart. Perch dimension 1 1/2 inches in diameter as
> an average. Natural preferred.
>     Pionus are in general very good-natured, independent birds and can
> occupy their time playing on their own quite well, but also enjoy time
> and attention with their owners. A cage with an open-up play area on
> top is ideal.
>     Hope this helps. If further info is needed let me know.

>     Alicia

Alicia,

Thank you for the information.

I have a call in to some Pionus breeders in Chapel Hill NC recommended
by a nearby breeder.  Haven't heard back from them yet.

Good nature and independence are important qualities.  Talking would be
nice sometimes, but it isn't a big thing with me.  Affectionate company
while I sit in front of the computer in the evenings is what I most want
from a bird.  

I realize training is an important factor.  I also recognize that of the
Jardine's I have seen, most have been young, or intended as breeders, or
wild caught, so I HAVE seen the most of their nippiness.  I have arthritis
in my fingers that (big surprise) is gradually getting worse.  A species
that is *inclined* to be nippy is a bit less desirable risk to me than
one that is *inclined* to be good natured.  Calmness is desirable too.

I understand it will take time and a lot of patience to train my baby.  

I hope to be able to buy a 3-week old and have a local friend who is
an experienced breeder raise it for me, specifically because I have
handled a LOT of baby birds at Pet Mania, and Chip's babies are recogniz-
able as HIS because (except for the red-rump parakeet) they are SO gentle
and not nippy, just cuddly.  Regardless whether I end up with a Jardine's
or Blue-head, Chip will raise the baby for me, and I have Mattie Sue
Athan's book on training.  Will need the same size of cage in either case,
and similar diet.

I welcome any more info on Pionus and Poicephalus, especially the Blue
Heads as compared with Jardine's for temperament and health.

Thanks.           ...laurie
             Mother Mastiff
TIGRIS English Mastiffs, 3 kittens, and Elavil the blue canary