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Millet a la worm

Post by Margaret Esther Mart » Wed, 25 May 1994 09:09:26



This is in the vein of the person who asked if nutriberries were OK if
they had mold on them. A couple of years ago, I purchased a seed mix from
a pet store and when I got it home and opened it up it was alive with
small yellowish white worms. Disgusted, I took it back to the pet store
and they said that they would exchange it but that I could have just put
it in the freezer to kill the worms and that my budgies would just eat
the worms as "extra protein."

Was I being an over-protective "mother" by exchanging the seed? I thought
that if the seed had worms it must be old. Also since my birds had never
even seen worms to my knowledge, I was afraid they might ***on even a
dead worm.

margaret martin

 
 
 

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Post by abarbi.. » Wed, 25 May 1994 15:57:06



Quote:
>they had mold on them. A couple of years ago, I purchased a seed mix from
>a pet store and when I got it home and opened it up it was alive with
>small yellowish white worms. Disgusted, I took it back to the pet store
>and they said that they would exchange it but that I could have just put
>it in the freezer to kill the worms and that my budgies would just eat
>the worms as "extra protein."

<HORRIFIED GASP>  I cant believe (yes, actually I can) that a pet store
would tell you something like that.  If that seed was old, then there
was little nutrional value to it in the first place.  In addition, I just
had a very bad bout of a parasite in my Quaker Parakeet.  The vet told
me that old and contaminated seed could have been the source of the
strongyle that had infected the bird.  I had to go home and throw out
all of my seed.  While some people purchase worms to feed their birds,
wormy seed is an _entirely_ different matter.  No, absolutely not--you
were not over-protective.  I have found out over the last several years,
that gut-instinct should always be followed--when it comes to birds or
babies!  <G>  Sometimes people think I am paranoid in certain situations,
but more often than not I am right! <RBG>

I have been told by several good breeders that when it comes to buying
seed--never buy it out of bulk bins.  They tell me that bulk seed
is often old, and contaminated by Lord knows what.  So, I am always
careful to buy sealed packages of seed.  Seems to work!

On an entirely different matter--but still regarding pet stores:

I just walked out of a pet store here and am extremely upset.  While I
was in the store buying my Roudybush pellets, I noticed an employee
cleaning the budgie cage.  He was spraying a clear solution on the
walls (glass enclosure, rather than a metal cage) that was sprinkling
over all the birds (yes, they were still inside).   Then I noticed
several of the birds run to the walls and begin***ing the solution
off the walls, in fact drinking it rather eagerly.  Horrified, I asked
the woman at the counter what kind of solution the employee was using,
and she _reassured_ me that it was only a light bleach solution!!!
I asked if she realized that the birds were ingesting the solution,
and she said it was not toxic to the birds!  <Would you add a little
bleach to your glass of water????>   I was so upset at this, especially
because she was argumentive when I repeated to her that even light
bleach solution was bad for those birds, that I am ashamed to say I
just turned around and walked out.  _EVEN_ if it wasn't harmful for
those birds to ingest, it has got to be caustic to their eyes!!

Does anyone have any ideas on action that might be taken to make this
store stop these kinds of practices??

In addition to this, I have noticed that the resident BGM has an
extremely long beak, as in curving almost to his throat.  I have
no knowledge about big birds ( I am just learning about my Amazon),
but would you think that his beak might need to be trimmed??

Patti

 
 
 

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Post by Sheri McGuir » Wed, 25 May 1994 17:24:57



Quote:
>bleach solution was bad for those birds, that I am ashamed to say I
>just turned around and walked out.  _EVEN_ if it wasn't harmful for
>those birds to ingest, it has got to be caustic to their eyes!!

>Does anyone have any ideas on action that might be taken to make this
>store stop these kinds of practices??

>In addition to this, I have noticed that the resident BGM has an
>extremely long beak, as in curving almost to his throat.  I have
>no knowledge about big birds ( I am just learning about my Amazon),
>but would you think that his beak might need to be trimmed??

>Patti

This brings up a concern I have.  What do you do about neglected/abuse
birds in pet stores?  I saw a BGM in a pet store in a old iron round
cage that he/she couldn't even turn around in let alone stretch his
wings.  I cannot get him out of my mind.  I keep seeing him in that
awful situation and it's haunting me.  The whole store was *** and they
had 2 Quakers (paired) that an owner got rid of because they killed
an African Grey and the store employees were tormenting them and felt
justified.  What do you do?  I figure you have to call the humane society
in that area but in my experiance nothing gets done.  And believe me, I
have called the humane society on several occasions in my lifetime and
I NEVER see any results.

Sheri

 
 
 

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Post by Robert.Mole.. » Wed, 25 May 1994 01:26:59


Quote:
> I just walked out of a pet store here and am extremely upset.  While I
> was in the store buying my Roudybush pellets, I noticed an employee
> cleaning the budgie cage.  He was spraying a clear solution on the
> walls (glass enclosure, rather than a metal cage) that was sprinkling
> over all the birds (yes, they were still inside).   Then I noticed
> several of the birds run to the walls and begin***ing the solution
> off the walls, in fact drinking it rather eagerly.  Horrified, I asked
> the woman at the counter what kind of solution the employee was using,
> and she _reassured_ me that it was only a light bleach solution!!!
> I asked if she realized that the birds were ingesting the solution,
> and she said it was not toxic to the birds!  <Would you add a little
> bleach to your glass of water????>   I was so upset at this, especially
> because she was argumentive when I repeated to her that even light
> bleach solution was bad for those birds, that I am ashamed to say I
> just turned around and walked out.  _EVEN_ if it wasn't harmful for
> those birds to ingest, it has got to be caustic to their eyes!!

> Does anyone have any ideas on action that might be taken to make this
> store stop these kinds of practices??

I can personally tell you that the pet store must hear the complaint from
 many-many people before they will begin to listen.  We had a pet-store
 that was not keeping their cages clean, selling sick birds, etc...
 Since I was president of our local bird club at the time, the club mounted
 a campaign against the store.  Everyone wrote letters, saying that until
 the changed their practices that they would take their business elsewhere.
 They also pointed out the true-ism of business that I learned and live by...
    "One happy customer will tell TWO to THREE other people if you are lucky,
     although One UNHAPPY customer will tell TEN to FIF*** "... (Not sure
     who originally said this..)

Sure enough, they educated themselves on the proper care/maint/etc of the
 birds they were keeping, although they did not do it in time...  Their
 "reputation" as being a "good SAFE place" to purchase pet-stuff from was
 already tarnished...  They eventually went out of business, which was not
 the original desire of the protest, but atleast we did turn them around...

Give your local bird club a try!!!  Also, maybe a letter from an AVIAN Vet.
 would give them a "shock to reality"...

Quote:

> In addition to this, I have noticed that the resident BGM has an
> extremely long beak, as in curving almost to his throat.  I have
> no knowledge about big birds ( I am just learning about my Amazon),
> but would you think that his beak might need to be trimmed??

My BGM (female) beak has to be trimmed about once a year...
We have given her more "chewables" and that has seamed to help her out...

Hope this helps,
Robert Molenda

 
 
 

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Post by Dana of Sally & Da » Thu, 26 May 1994 16:42:00


Quote:
>........ the budgie cage.  He was spraying a clear solution on the
>walls (glass enclosure, rather than a metal cage) that was sprinkling
>over all the birds (yes, they were still inside).   Then I noticed
>several of the birds run to the walls and begin***ing the solution
>off the walls, in fact drinking it rather eagerly.  Horrified, I asked
>the woman at the counter what kind of solution the employee was using,
>and she _reassured_ me that it was only a light bleach solution!!!
>I asked if she realized that the birds were ingesting the solution,
>and she said it was not toxic to the birds!  <Would you add a little

...
Hi Patti:
What's the name and address of this pet store?  Maybe we can do a little
lobbying to help the birds.
Regards,
Dana
 
 
 

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Post by abarbi.. » Fri, 27 May 1994 06:51:04



Quote:
>>........ the budgie cage.  He was spraying a clear solution on the
>>walls (glass enclosure, rather than a metal cage) that was sprinkling
>>over all the birds (yes, they were still inside).   Then I noticed
>>several of the birds run to the walls and begin***ing the solution
>>off the walls, in fact drinking it rather eagerly.  Horrified, I asked
>>the woman at the counter what kind of solution the employee was using,
>>and she _reassured_ me that it was only a light bleach solution!!!
>>I asked if she realized that the birds were ingesting the solution,
>>and she said it was not toxic to the birds!  <Would you add a little
>....
>Hi Patti:
>What's the name and address of this pet store?  Maybe we can do a little
>lobbying to help the birds.
>Regards,
>Dana

Hi Dana, here is the name, address and phone number of the pet store
I posted about.

Island Pet Center
9027 90th St. NW
Oak Harbor, WA  98277
206-675-9646

In addition to those poor little budgies being sprayed with bleach water,
and the poor BGM with an overgrown beak, I also just recalled another
incident there that should have opened my eyes--they had a Quaker paraet
on display that had a plastic toy in his cage, exactly like one that
I had given my quaker.  My Quaker, Nicky promptly destroyed this toy,
and I was afraid of him ingesting the little plastic pieces, so I
took it away.  I very nicely explained what _my_ bird has done to this
toy, in concern for the welfare of their bird, and the employee shrugged,
adn told me that the bird was scared of it, and never touched it.

I should have seen then that this store does not really care about
the _real_ health of their birds. . .

Patti