Mice and herp owners

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Mice and herp owners

Post by Tresur » Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:00:00



Hi:
I am investigating the possibility of starting a mouse farm.  Actually
expanding the one I have for my own snake.  Can we start a discussion on live
vs frozen.  What do you like and not like about your current mouse farm/pet
store?  How much do you buy when you  do buy?  How do you decide where  to buy
your mice?
When you buy mail order how are they shipped to you?  
I would also be interested in hearing from current mouse farm owners who would
be willing to share information
 
 
 

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Post by Mark Blount-Stonha » Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:00:00




Quote:
>Hi:
>I am investigating the possibility of starting a mouse farm.

Move to Holland and start a gerbil farm.  I'll buy them off you.  I can
only find one reliable source near me.

--
Mark

 
 
 

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Post by Lawrence & Bobbi » Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> Move to Holland and start a gerbil farm.  I'll buy them off you.  I can
> only find one reliable source near me.

To bad you don't live in the states...we can't GIVE our gerbils away (here
in Southern Idaho anyway)...Supply has outdistanced demand a long time ago!!
Bobbie
 
 
 

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Post by Shamik » Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:00:00


I feed frozen to most of my snakes. Aside from the fact that I believe
it's safer for the snake, hunting in the wild where the mouse is unaware
is different than hunting in a cage where the mouse is basicly trapped
and knows it, frozen is alot more conveinent for me. Each night I come
home from work, check my feeding schedule, and thaw what I need for the
night. I buy from S.O.S. Rodent Express in Pa. Their prices are very
good. I do not know what shipping costs are since I pick my order up.
Last time I placed an order it was for:




She likes them just fine so she'll be getting 2 rabbits now instead of 3
 jumbo rats. Hopefully this order will last 4 mo. The only snakes I have
that eat live are 1 ball python, 1 mexican milksnake, 1 dumeril's boa
and 1 kenyan sand boa (thats not counting the 14 garters and ribbons
that eat fish). I'd be really hard pressed to try breeding for my bunch.
Hope this helps.



Quote:
> Hi:
> I am investigating the possibility of starting a mouse farm.  Actually
> expanding the one I have for my own snake.  Can we start a discussion
on live
> vs frozen.  What do you like and not like about your current mouse
farm/pet
> store?  How much do you buy when you  do buy?  How do you decide where
 to buy
> your mice?
> When you buy mail order how are they shipped to you?
> I would also be interested in hearing from current mouse farm owners
who would
> be willing to share information

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Post by Pete Howard » Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:00:00



Later,                    
Pete                    

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Post by <tlfw.. » Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:00:00


I breed my own mice (just getting the colony established) and feed the mice
thawed frozen to my snakes.  Although I have fed live to my snakes before,
it was only to get them established feeding (and was either pinkies or
hoppers, not ***s).  I firmly believe that feeding live is dangerous for
my snakes and my snakes get plenty of excercise and "entertainment" without
the "fun" of risking one of my $200 boas to a rats teeth.  Yes, snakes
capture and kill live prey in the wild, but they are NOT in the wild, they
are in captivity.  Working as a biologist, I often see snakes in the wild
and they are often very scarred up--and the scars look like small teeth to
me.  People will say-there are lots of horror stories out there (1 rat, 1
bite, dead 8 ft boa...), but IVE never had a problem".   Well, however true
that may be, I've put a lot of money and emotional energy into my snakes,
and I don't want to deal with the risk!  Also,  I've read descriptions of
snakes eating carrion (dead prey) in the wild so it is also a natural
activity.

Regarding raising your own mice.  Let me just get on my soapbox and say
first--mice are live animals and deserve to be treated humanely, so if you
are raising your own mice, keep in mind that they need time and energy just
like your reptile friends...

Mice colonies do have a particular smell, even when the cages are cleaned 2x
a week (the male mice's urine has its own odor and they love to mark their
territory :)  I personally don't mind the smell, but some people complain a
lot.  There are lots of web sites out there on raising mice--just put "mouse
care sheets" into a search engine and you'll get lots.  Just remember, lots
of people out there are raising them just for pets, so don't offend them by
mentioning "feeder mice" --it makes herp people look bad :)  you are welcome
to write to me if you need more info or have specific questions.

The mice can be easily killed in groups using dry ice and freezing them.
Store in double freezer bags to prevent freezer burn.  Using frozen mice is
very convienient, because you can just pull out what you need for the night
and thaw and can store a quanity.

Theresa

Quote:

>Hi:
>I am investigating the possibility of starting a mouse farm.  Actually
>expanding the one I have for my own snake.  Can we start a discussion on
live
>vs frozen.  What do you like and not like about your current mouse farm/pet
>store?  How much do you buy when you  do buy?  How do you decide where  to
buy
>your mice?
>When you buy mail order how are they shipped to you?
>I would also be interested in hearing from current mouse farm owners who
would
>be willing to share information

 
 
 

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Post by Pete Howard » Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:00:00


These are the words of an experienced herper. Thank You

Later,                    
Pete                    

Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo
http://community.webtv.net/SnakeBusters/SnakeBusters

 
 
 

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Post by Lyn Unkno » Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:00:00


To those of you who breed your own, and then feed frozen....how do you
kill the mice prior to freezing?  Do you use CO2, cervical separation,
or freeze alive?  Just curious.  I have considered breeding my own, but
am uncomfortable with the killing methods...I have used freezing and
cervical separation in the past, and neither is pretty....
Thanks,
Lyn

Help Control Pet Over-population!
Please spay or neuter your pets.

 
 
 

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Post by Alan Gabrie » Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:00


I started breeding my own mice years ago after I bought some frozen mice
from a pet store. I thawed a couple and offered them to the snakes. When the
snakes grabbed them they exploded and their insides were rotten. From then
on I bred my own and have about 35 breeding females to feed my 30 herps and
also sell to three friends, which pays for the mouse food.

--
Alan Gabriel
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Quote:
> Hi:
> I am investigating the possibility of starting a mouse farm.  Actually
> expanding the one I have for my own snake.  Can we start a discussion on
live
> vs frozen.  What do you like and not like about your current mouse
farm/pet
> store?  How much do you buy when you  do buy?  How do you decide where  to
buy
> your mice?
> When you buy mail order how are they shipped to you?
> I would also be interested in hearing from current mouse farm owners who
would
> be willing to share information

 
 
 

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Post by Tresur » Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:00


We use freezing with the pinkies and dry ice wiith the larger mice for our own
snakes.  We plan on going with co2 cannisters if we find enough customers to
actually become a mouse farm.  For those of you who have responded privately to
my original post thank you very much.