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Help:Ball Python off feed

Post by James Howar » Sun, 02 Jun 1996 04:00:00



I have a male Ball Python that was given to me 5 months ago.  He is
approx. 3.5 ft long and has not eaten since day one.  I also have  a
slighty smaller male who eats whenever food is presented.  The no eater
will pay any attention to food, whether it is live or freshly killed.  
Any help would be appriciated.

 
 
 

Help:Ball Python off feed

Post by Pete Zupi » Mon, 03 Jun 1996 04:00:00



Quote:
>approx. 3.5 ft long and has not eaten since day one.  I also have  a
>slighty smaller male who eats whenever food is presented.  The no eater
>will pay any attention to food, whether it is live or freshly killed.  
>Any help would be appriciated.

I do not have much experiance with snakes, but;
A friend had a Ball that would not feed for quite sometime, he tried
different types of mice, live and pre-killed and no go. I gave him a
pre-killed quail chick and the animal fed right away. After the animal fed on
the quail the first time his feeding picked up, and they were able to feed
him mice after that.....never had another feeding problem.
Some lizards I've had who were slow feeders always went for quail. They
(quail) have a lot of stink/scent to them, maybe that is the big turn on.
I don't know of anyone who would sell just one quail to try....If you can't
find one and want to try it; I only know of a place; minimum order is 100
chicks(25cents each). If you'd like their adresss Email me.

_________________________________

 Pete's Homepage:
 Varanus albigularis
 White-throated Monitor Lizards
 http://www.en.com/users/jzupich/

 
 
 

Help:Ball Python off feed

Post by ted hess-homeie » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


> >approx. 3.5 ft long and has not eaten since day one.  I also have  a
> >slighty smaller male who eats whenever food is presented.  The no eater
> >will pay any attention to food, whether it is live or freshly killed.
> >Any help would be appriciated.

> I do not have much experiance with snakes, but;
> A friend had a Ball that would not feed for quite sometime, he tried
> different types of mice, live and pre-killed and no go. I gave him a
> pre-killed quail chick and the animal fed right away. After the animal fed on
> the quail the first time his feeding picked up, and they were able to feed
> him mice after that.....never had another feeding problem.
> Some lizards I've had who were slow feeders always went for quail. They
> (quail) have a lot of stink/scent to them, maybe that is the big turn on.
> I don't know of anyone who would sell just one quail to try....If you can't
> find one and want to try it; I only know of a place; minimum order is 100
> chicks(25cents each). If you'd like their adresss Email me.

> _________________________________

>  Pete's Homepage:
>  Varanus albigularis
>  White-throated Monitor Lizards
>  http://www.en.com/users/jzupich/

ive been following this newsgroup for a long time and have read probably
ove r hundred posts abotu ball pythons not feeding.  (i dont mean the
young ones that never get started - i mean the ones that have been good
feeders and suddently go on an extended diet)  the interesting thing is
ive never seen a post wheree the ball python starved to death.  has
anyone ever had a feeding ball python stop feeding and starve itself to
death?  im wondering if ball pythons live in areas where its normal for
them  to endure long fasts during dry seasons.  if that is the case then
maybe occassional long fasts are normal adaptive behavior like
hibernation amoung snakes from temperate areas.
 
 
 

Help:Ball Python off feed

Post by Douglas E. D » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>I have a male Ball Python that was given to me 5 months ago.  He is
>approx. 3.5 ft long and has not eaten since day one.  I also have  a
>slighty smaller male who eats whenever food is presented.  The no eater
>will pay any attention to food, whether it is live or freshly killed.  
>Any help would be appriciated.

An old trick is to put the pinkie and the python in a dark, small box
and leave them alone overnight.   Ball pythons like to feed in the
dark.  If its a shyness problem, this will usually work.  Try a couple
times before giving up and don't disturb them until the morning.

Doug

PS, you might try a fuzzy insteady of a pinkie or a prekilled
juvenile.  Don't leave a weaned or *** mouse alive w/ the python
unattended.

--------------------------
Its what you learn after you know it all that counts =:o
  (don't know who said it first?)

Douglas E. Dix, PhD.
Wildlife Toxicologist
Deer Fern Farms Consulting
Arlington WA 98223

 
 
 

Help:Ball Python off feed

Post by Rebecca Sob » Wed, 05 Jun 1996 04:00:00


   >

   > >approx. 3.5 ft long and has not eaten since day one.  I also have  a
   > >slighty smaller male who eats whenever food is presented.  The no eater
   > >will pay any attention to food, whether it is live or freshly killed.
   > >Any help would be appriciated.
   >



   ive been following this newsgroup for a long time and have read probably
   ove r hundred posts abotu ball pythons not feeding.  (i dont mean the
   young ones that never get started - i mean the ones that have been good
   feeders and suddently go on an extended diet)  the interesting thing is
   ive never seen a post wheree the ball python starved to death.  has
   anyone ever had a feeding ball python stop feeding and starve itself to
   death?  im wondering if ball pythons live in areas where its normal for
   them  to endure long fasts during dry seasons.  if that is the case then
   maybe occassional long fasts are normal adaptive behavior like
   hibernation amoung snakes from temperate areas.

I do think that ball pythons in the wild may go on long fasts.  I've never
really heard of one that starved itself to death, but a long fast can
lower the immune system, so the snake actually dies of something else,
parasites or respiratory infection, etc.  Fasts up to 6 months should not
be a problem for a healthy snake starting with a good weight.

If you don't have a copy of the Advanced Vivarium Systems, _Ball Python
Manual_, by de Vosjoli, et.al. pick one up.  This is an inexpensive
paper back with an entire chapter on tricks to get reluctant feeders to
eat.  Ball pythons often prefer gerbils to rats, so you might try a
freshly killed gerbil.  Often they are shy eaters who will not eat if you
watch.  Try putting the snake and the pre-killed prey into a bag together.  
Put the bag in a warm, secure place (inside the cage) and go away.  Maybe
the prey will be gone the following morning.  If you are keeping the 2
snakes together, consider seperate housing.  Ball pythons are not terribly
social and sometimes are better feeders when housed alone.  Although they
come from parts of Africa that are relatively dry, they seem to take advantage
of humid microclimates.  Sometimes raising the humidity will help.  Ball
pythons do most of their hunting at dawn and dusk.  Try feeding then or at
least offer pre-killed food around dusk and leave the snake alone with it
until the following morning, well after dawn.

Rebecca Sobol

http://www.ofps.ucar.edu/~sobol/ris_herp.html
http://www.ofps.ucar.edu/~sobol/chs/chshome.html
Boulder, CO

 
 
 

Help:Ball Python off feed

Post by John Sute » Sun, 09 Jun 1996 04:00:00




Quote:

>I have a male Ball Python that was given to me 5 months ago.  He is
>approx. 3.5 ft long and has not eaten since day one.  I also have
>a
>slighty smaller male who eats whenever food is presented.  The no
>eater
>will pay any attention to food, whether it is live or freshly
>killed.  
>Any help would be appriciated.

Have you tried gerbils?  That is their native food in the wild.  You may consider that.  Make sure, however, that you pre-kill a gerbil, as they are fiesty little creatures that could bite and cause harm to your snake.  One thing I have noticed about my ball is that whenever I feed her a dead rat, she strikes at it faster if I move it a little.  I have a 2 foot hook that I use to move the rat a little and that makes her strike it faster.  You may try that.
 
 
 

Help:Ball Python off feed

Post by Justin Marc Dys » Fri, 14 Jun 1996 04:00:00


:I have a male Ball Python that was given to me 5 months ago.  He is
:approx. 3.5 ft long and has not eaten since day one.  I also have  a
:slighty smaller male who eats whenever food is presented.  The no eater
:will pay any attention to food, whether it is live or freshly killed.  
:Any help would be appriciated.

After six months of trying virtually every trick in the book, I used the
"shake and bake" method of throwing some gerbil-cage shavings in with the
mouse before I offered it to the ball...it ate three mice...I don't know
whether it was just ready to eat, or the gerbil scent, but it can't harm
to try...

--
Cheers, DYCE
=====================================================================

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Help:Ball Python off feed

Post by Padd » Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>:I have a male Ball Python that was given to me 5 months ago.  He is
>:approx. 3.5 ft long and has not eaten since day one.  I also have  a
>:slighty smaller male who eats whenever food is presented.  The no eater
>:will pay any attention to food, whether it is live or freshly killed.  
>:Any help would be appriciated.
>After six months of trying virtually every trick in the book, I used the
>"shake and bake" method of throwing some gerbil-cage shavings in with the
>mouse before I offered it to the ball...it ate three mice...I don't know
>whether it was just ready to eat, or the gerbil scent, but it can't harm
>to try...
>--
>Cheers, DYCE
>=====================================================================

>=====================================================================

Ball pythons are very shy creatures. You could try feeding them in
complete darkness. They also like confined spaces, so you could also
try putting them into a cloth sack along with their (dead) prey.

Both of these methods have produced good results.

Goodluck.

--
Paddy.
   (Scotland)
They'll never take our freedom.

 
 
 

Help:Ball Python off feed

Post by Kevin A. Vol » Sat, 22 Jun 1996 04:00:00


I've posted this several times now.

I had a problem feeder...until I found out what she wanted.  She likes to
feed from a hide box in total darkness.  This is what you do.  Get hide
box that is about 2x the volume of the snake (i.e. small) and cut a small
hole in it (just big enough for the snake to slither into).  Put the
snake in the hide box.  Get a largeer cardboard box (I use a copier paper
box) and lid.  Line the bottom with newspaper.  Put a live mouse in the
box.  Put the hidebox, with snake inside, in the copier box.  Replace the
lid.  Listen closely for a good 15 minutes for a *thump* as the snake
strikes at the mouse.  If after 15 minutes you still hear the live mouse
you should carefully sneak a peek in the box to see if the snake came out
of the hide box.  I would not leave the snake with the live rodent for
more than 45 minutes.  Hungry rodents can actually start to eat the
snake.

This works marvelously for my probelm feeder ball.  She likes striking
from a comfortable hide box in total darkness.  Remember the guy who
posted about the ball that would only eat crickets...he tried this method
and succeeded in feeding a young rat to the ball.