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male and female siblings fight until blood is spilled

Post by Andr » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:40:40



I have two cats who were inseperable for their whole life (1 year).
The love each other and they cried when being seperated (locked one
cat in the bedroom by accident).
After one of them kicked down a vase i was running after him and got
him at the tail (yes i know that was wrong, i was upset). Anyway he
started to hiss and i let him go. But somehow she must have taken it
the wrong way and before i knew what happened they were in the worst
cat fight i have ever seen. I managed to pull them apart and lock them
into different rooms. After one hour i tried an approach and it seemed
to work well. He seemed to say "I am sorry" they snuggled a bit and
that seemed to be it. After about 30 minutes they started to hiss at
each other again. It was bedtime, so i took one of them with me, but
let the other one in later. As soon as the lights went out, they
became very aggressive again and i seperated them for the night.
I need advice on how to make them used to each other again. They still
have their claws, and they are using them. I dont want them to get
hurt but i cant keep them seperated forever in my apartment either.

Thank you very much for reading and for any advice you might send.

Andre

 
 
 

male and female siblings fight until blood is spilled

Post by Gail » Wed, 04 Sep 2002 01:07:05


I think the cat you grabbed displaced his aggression onto his sibling.
This fighting is temporary and should pass soon.
Gail
Quote:

> I have two cats who were inseperable for their whole life (1 year).
> The love each other and they cried when being seperated (locked one
> cat in the bedroom by accident).
> After one of them kicked down a vase i was running after him and got
> him at the tail (yes i know that was wrong, i was upset). Anyway he
> started to hiss and i let him go. But somehow she must have taken it
> the wrong way and before i knew what happened they were in the worst
> cat fight i have ever seen. I managed to pull them apart and lock them
> into different rooms. After one hour i tried an approach and it seemed
> to work well. He seemed to say "I am sorry" they snuggled a bit and
> that seemed to be it. After about 30 minutes they started to hiss at
> each other again. It was bedtime, so i took one of them with me, but
> let the other one in later. As soon as the lights went out, they
> became very aggressive again and i seperated them for the night.
> I need advice on how to make them used to each other again. They still
> have their claws, and they are using them. I dont want them to get
> hurt but i cant keep them seperated forever in my apartment either.

> Thank you very much for reading and for any advice you might send.

> Andre

 
 
 

male and female siblings fight until blood is spilled

Post by Cathy Friedman » Wed, 04 Sep 2002 02:31:30


I agree, about the displaced aggression.  I've seen this happen several
times when my cats (who are inside cats) have been out on the porch.  If one
hisses at a neighborhood cat who comes up close to the screens - too close,
AFASC!, she may turn around & start a fight with the other cat - who's just
the innocent bystander.

I hope it's just a passing thing w/ your cats.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon

Quote:

> I think the cat you grabbed displaced his aggression onto his sibling.
> This fighting is temporary and should pass soon.
> Gail


> > I have two cats who were inseperable for their whole life (1 year).
> > The love each other and they cried when being seperated (locked one
> > cat in the bedroom by accident).
> > After one of them kicked down a vase i was running after him and got
> > him at the tail (yes i know that was wrong, i was upset). Anyway he
> > started to hiss and i let him go. But somehow she must have taken it
> > the wrong way and before i knew what happened they were in the worst
> > cat fight i have ever seen. I managed to pull them apart and lock them
> > into different rooms. After one hour i tried an approach and it seemed
> > to work well. He seemed to say "I am sorry" they snuggled a bit and
> > that seemed to be it. After about 30 minutes they started to hiss at
> > each other again. It was bedtime, so i took one of them with me, but
> > let the other one in later. As soon as the lights went out, they
> > became very aggressive again and i seperated them for the night.
> > I need advice on how to make them used to each other again. They still
> > have their claws, and they are using them. I dont want them to get
> > hurt but i cant keep them seperated forever in my apartment either.

> > Thank you very much for reading and for any advice you might send.

> > Andre

 
 
 

male and female siblings fight until blood is spilled

Post by Andr » Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:20:05


Hello Cathy, Hello Gail,

first of all let me thank you for your advice since i am really
desperate. I have one locked up in the cage and the other one is
hiding behind the sofa all day. Sometimes when the other one sneaks
out they hiss at each other and she crawls back behind the sofa being
scared.
Earlier that day i had her in the cage and he approached the cage
carefully. They seemed to get along quite well as long as she was
inside. Only she was crying to be let out (she was calm besides that
and he was too). So i let her out just to see how they immediately
jumped each others throats.
They pup all over the place when they go off. I think you are both
right and that he might be the aggressor. She seems to be very
frightened. But when they go off i can not tell who is chasing who. I
cant let them together since i am afraid they might kill each other.
It gets really ***.
I wrote a vet and he suggested to let them settle it. Unfortunately i
dont want her or him to be sliced into pieces just to get a
settlement.
Do you have any other advice how to get them together again? I don't
think that just letting them settle it will do any good. At least not
now.

Thank you very much guys, I really appreciate it.

Andre

P.S.: Yesterday shortly after the fight he came to her and apologized
by***ing her. He approached her very carefully and they seemed to
have settled it, but just 5 minutes later the battle was raging.

Quote:

> I agree, about the displaced aggression.  I've seen this happen several
> times when my cats (who are inside cats) have been out on the porch.  If one
> hisses at a neighborhood cat who comes up close to the screens - too close,
> AFASC!, she may turn around & start a fight with the other cat - who's just
> the innocent bystander.

> I hope it's just a passing thing w/ your cats.

> Cathy

> --
> "Staccato signals of constant information..."
> ("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon


> > I think the cat you grabbed displaced his aggression onto his sibling.
> > This fighting is temporary and should pass soon.
> > Gail


> > > I have two cats who were inseperable for their whole life (1 year).
> > > The love each other and they cried when being seperated (locked one
> > > cat in the bedroom by accident).
> > > After one of them kicked down a vase i was running after him and got
> > > him at the tail (yes i know that was wrong, i was upset). Anyway he
> > > started to hiss and i let him go. But somehow she must have taken it
> > > the wrong way and before i knew what happened they were in the worst
> > > cat fight i have ever seen. I managed to pull them apart and lock them
> > > into different rooms. After one hour i tried an approach and it seemed
> > > to work well. He seemed to say "I am sorry" they snuggled a bit and
> > > that seemed to be it. After about 30 minutes they started to hiss at
> > > each other again. It was bedtime, so i took one of them with me, but
> > > let the other one in later. As soon as the lights went out, they
> > > became very aggressive again and i seperated them for the night.
> > > I need advice on how to make them used to each other again. They still
> > > have their claws, and they are using them. I dont want them to get
> > > hurt but i cant keep them seperated forever in my apartment either.

> > > Thank you very much for reading and for any advice you might send.

> > > Andre

 
 
 

male and female siblings fight until blood is spilled

Post by Kare » Wed, 04 Sep 2002 11:37:11




Quote:
> Hello Cathy, Hello Gail,

> first of all let me thank you for your advice since i am really
> desperate. I have one locked up in the cage and the other one is
> hiding behind the sofa all day. Sometimes when the other one sneaks
> out they hiss at each other and she crawls back behind the sofa being
> scared.
> Earlier that day i had her in the cage and he approached the cage
> carefully. They seemed to get along quite well as long as she was
> inside. Only she was crying to be let out (she was calm besides that
> and he was too). So i let her out just to see how they immediately
> jumped each others throats.
> They pup all over the place when they go off. I think you are both
> right and that he might be the aggressor. She seems to be very
> frightened. But when they go off i can not tell who is chasing who. I
> cant let them together since i am afraid they might kill each other.
> It gets really ***.
> I wrote a vet and he suggested to let them settle it. Unfortunately i
> dont want her or him to be sliced into pieces just to get a
> settlement.
> Do you have any other advice how to get them together again? I don't
> think that just letting them settle it will do any good. At least not
> now.

> Thank you very much guys, I really appreciate it.

> Andre

You might try buying some Felifriend at the pet store and seeing if it helps
divert their aggression? Certainly you might call your vet and see if they
have any advice. This is a hard situation. YOu have no room that you could
separate them in for a couple of days?

karen

 
 
 

male and female siblings fight until blood is spilled

Post by Andr » Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:41:27


Quote:



> > Hello Cathy, Hello Gail,

> > first of all let me thank you for your advice since i am really
> > desperate. I have one locked up in the cage and the other one is
> > hiding behind the sofa all day. Sometimes when the other one sneaks
> > out they hiss at each other and she crawls back behind the sofa being
> > scared.
> > Earlier that day i had her in the cage and he approached the cage
> > carefully. They seemed to get along quite well as long as she was
> > inside. Only she was crying to be let out (she was calm besides that
> > and he was too). So i let her out just to see how they immediately
> > jumped each others throats.
> > They pup all over the place when they go off. I think you are both
> > right and that he might be the aggressor. She seems to be very
> > frightened. But when they go off i can not tell who is chasing who. I
> > cant let them together since i am afraid they might kill each other.
> > It gets really ***.
> > I wrote a vet and he suggested to let them settle it. Unfortunately i
> > dont want her or him to be sliced into pieces just to get a
> > settlement.
> > Do you have any other advice how to get them together again? I don't
> > think that just letting them settle it will do any good. At least not
> > now.

> > Thank you very much guys, I really appreciate it.

> > Andre

> You might try buying some Felifriend at the pet store and seeing if it helps
> divert their aggression? Certainly you might call your vet and see if they
> have any advice. This is a hard situation. YOu have no room that you could
> separate them in for a couple of days?

During the day yes, but at night I need the bedroom and they jump all
on me so I cant get some eye shut. So I put one of them (him) in a
fairly large cage and her in the same room with him. It seems to me
that he is still upset, while she is just defending herself (of course
her defensiveness doesnt calm him down at all). But when I play with
her she acts normal and quite happy, only when he is around she gets
really upset. On the other hand he is not acting like he did before
and seems to be in a strange mood.

Andre

 
 
 

male and female siblings fight until blood is spilled

Post by Jim Lawt » Thu, 05 Sep 2002 20:11:34




snip

On the other hand he is not acting like he did before

Quote:
>and seems to be in a strange mood.

is it possible you hurt his tail, and he's still got a sprain or
something ? Is he sensitive round his tail at all?

Jim

Quote:

>Andre

 
 
 

male and female siblings fight until blood is spilled

Post by Andr » Fri, 06 Sep 2002 07:25:21


Quote:



> snip

> On the other hand he is not acting like he did before
> >and seems to be in a strange mood.

> is it possible you hurt his tail, and he's still got a sprain or
> something ? Is he sensitive round his tail at all?

> Jim

everything is possible. yesterday they were both out and just hissing
but keeping respectfull distance. he then came crawling over me with
his tail straight up (until he saw her). both are behaving strangely
but i think it might just be the stress that they are not used to deal
with. i will have a vet have a look at him this saturday
(unfortunately i cant go earlier).
i found that when i keep them separated the whole day and introduce
them to each other they seem to have more problems as if one is in the
cage and the other one can approach the cage carefully (of course this
means more stress to the one in the cage, thats why i switch who has
to be in and who gets out).
he doesnt seem hurt when i stroke him, he is just very nervous and
looking after every little noise (but so is she).