Moon's Graden

by **J J Levi** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:13:37

You may have seen my post to Catnipped, detailing how we got our cats, Edgar
and Agatha. As part of my post, I posted a question, which would have been
easy to miss if you didn't not carefully read the whole megillah.

So here it is again.

The cats have been in our home for about a month now, and the mutual
affection is growing. They come to cuddle, they ask for treats, but they are
not allowed in the bedroom when we go to sleep. That's one of Mrs. Jay's
rules. They do come to visit when we go upstairs at night (they cuddle, then
they leave) and they do come in the morning when we wake up to demand a
morning treat (a couple of Temptations or Greenies thingies) and to look out
our window. (They do have windows downstairs and they can look out all day).

BUT, last night, for the first time, they sat outside our bedroom all night,
meowing very softly and scratching the door. Up until now, they stayed
downstairs, ate, slept, or did whatever cats do at night. Is this normal
behavior? Took a great deal of effort on my part not to let them in during
the night. We really don't want them climbing on us while we sleep.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jay

by **CatNippe** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:33:58

Quote:

> You may have seen my post to Catnipped, detailing how we got our cats, Edgar
> and Agatha. As part of my post, I posted a question, which would have been
> easy to miss if you didn't not carefully read the whole megillah.

> So here it is again.

> The cats have been in our home for about a month now, and the mutual
> affection is growing. They come to cuddle, they ask for treats, but they are
> not allowed in the bedroom when we go to sleep. That's one of Mrs. Jay's
> rules. They do come to visit when we go upstairs at night (they cuddle, then
> they leave) and they do come in the morning when we wake up to demand a
> morning treat (a couple of Temptations or Greenies thingies) and to look out
> our window. (They do have windows downstairs and they can look out all day).

> BUT, last night, for the first time, they sat outside our bedroom all night,
> meowing very softly and scratching the door. Up until now, they stayed
> downstairs, ate, slept, or did whatever cats do at night. Is this normal
> behavior? Took a great deal of effort on my part not to let them in during
> the night. We really don't want them climbing on us while we sleep.

> Any ideas?

> Thanks,

> Jay

I've never had a problem with cats crawling on me (besides little
kittens killing 'bed mice" moving under the sheets). Cats are communal
sleepers, they like to sleep cuddled close with the rest of their
family. Now that they're considering you the rest of their family they
just want the extra warmth and affection. I have the opposite problem -
*I* move around too much for *them*. The one that sleeps on my ***is
constantly sighing in resignation. ;> Seriously, most of them just
sleep next to you, not on you.

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
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by **J J Levi** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:52:59

Quote:

>> You may have seen my post to Catnipped, detailing how we got our cats,
>> Edgar
>> and Agatha. As part of my post, I posted a question, which would have
>> been
>> easy to miss if you didn't not carefully read the whole megillah.

>> So here it is again.

>> The cats have been in our home for about a month now, and the mutual
>> affection is growing. They come to cuddle, they ask for treats, but they
>> are
>> not allowed in the bedroom when we go to sleep. That's one of Mrs. Jay's
>> rules. They do come to visit when we go upstairs at night (they cuddle,
>> then
>> they leave) and they do come in the morning when we wake up to demand a
>> morning treat (a couple of Temptations or Greenies thingies) and to look
>> out
>> our window. (They do have windows downstairs and they can look out all
>> day).

>> BUT, last night, for the first time, they sat outside our bedroom all
>> night,
>> meowing very softly and scratching the door. Up until now, they stayed
>> downstairs, ate, slept, or did whatever cats do at night. Is this normal
>> behavior? Took a great deal of effort on my part not to let them in
>> during
>> the night. We really don't want them climbing on us while we sleep.

>> Any ideas?

>> Thanks,

>> Jay

> I've never had a problem with cats crawling on me (besides little kittens
> killing 'bed mice" moving under the sheets). Cats are communal sleepers,
> they like to sleep cuddled close with the rest of their family. Now that
> they're considering you the rest of their family they just want the extra
> warmth and affection. I have the opposite problem - *I* move around too
> much for *them*. The one that sleeps on my ***is constantly sighing in
> resignation. ;> Seriously, most of them just sleep next to you, not on
> you.

> --
> Hugs,

> CatNipped

Be a lot easier if they were like dogs, and slept in a little bed next to
yours. But people who have dogs (my son, for one) tell me that dogs, too,
soon abandon their little beds and come to sleep in your big bed, with you.
Sigh.

Jay

by **Winni** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:10:07

Quote:

> You may have seen my post to Catnipped, detailing how we got our cats, Edgar
> and Agatha. As part of my post, I posted a question, which would have been
> easy to miss if you didn't not ?carefully read the whole megillah.

> So here it is again.

> The cats have been in our home for about a month now, and the mutual
> affection is growing. They come to cuddle, they ask for treats, but they are
> not allowed in the bedroom when we go to sleep. That's one of Mrs. Jay's
> rules. They do come to visit when we go upstairs at night (they cuddle, then
> they leave) and they do come in the morning when we wake up to demand a
> morning treat (a couple of Temptations or Greenies thingies) and to look out
> our window. (They do have windows downstairs and they can look out all day).

> BUT, last night, for the first time, they sat outside our bedroom all night,
> meowing very softly and scratching the door. Up until now, they stayed
> downstairs, ate, slept, or did whatever cats do at night. Is this normal
> behavior? Took a great deal of effort on my part not to let them in during
> the night. ?We really don't want them climbing on us while we sleep.

> Any ideas?

> Thanks,

> Jay

My RB cat Rusty always wanted to come into my bedroom. I think he
just
wanted to be near me. I remember when I took a nap in bed with the
bedroom door
closed, he would bang on the door. Then I came out and napped on the
living
room couch instead, Rusty would just sat and dozed off in a chair near
by.
Sometimes he would come and sit on me on the couch, but never for
long.
It was like he just wanted to keep me in sight.
At night he slept in his own room with the door closed. If I slept in
my bedroom
with the door closed I would be awakened in the middle of the night
with a
loud bang on the door.

by **Divamanq** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:51:51

Quote:

> BUT, last night, for the first time, they sat outside our bedroom all night,
> meowing very softly and scratching the door. Up until now, they stayed
> downstairs, ate, slept, or did whatever cats do at night. Is this normal
> behavior?

Not sure where you live, but if the nights are getting colder (even if
they are indoors) that's most likely why.

Quote:

> Took a great deal of effort on my part not to let them in during
> the night. We really don't want them climbing on us while we sleep.

Why not? there's nothing pleasanter than having a nice, warm cat
"blanket" on a cold night. It may take them a few minutes to get
settled, but mine certainly don't do much "climbing". (Once I get
settled down to sleep, so do they - and once asleep, they don't move
around as much as I do.)

by **Arthur Shapi** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:25:34

Quote:

> It may take them a few minutes to get
>settled, but mine certainly don't do much "climbing".

That must be nice!

I've had Watermelon Man for over 12 years, and he spends most of every night
plastered against me,***ing and scratching and carrying on. And an 18 pound
cat can be quite a jostle. If he isn't grooming himself, he'll groom my hair
or beard for a half hour at a time. This has been going on since he arrived.

It's exceedingly rare to get an uninterrupted couple of hours of sleep. But I
guess I'm lucky that I'm allowed the bed at all, so I don't complain.

Art

by **MLB** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:08:38

Quote:

>> It may take them a few minutes to get
>> settled, but mine certainly don't do much "climbing".

> That must be nice!

> I've had Watermelon Man for over 12 years, and he spends most of every night
> plastered against me,***ing and scratching and carrying on. And an 18 pound
> cat can be quite a jostle. If he isn't grooming himself, he'll groom my hair
> or beard for a half hour at a time. This has been going on since he arrived.

> It's exceedingly rare to get an uninterrupted couple of hours of sleep. But I
> guess I'm lucky that I'm allowed the bed at all, so I don't complain.

> Art

I am glad to hear that Watermelonman is on the job. Please give him a
few scritches from me. How are Emma and Giovanni? I've had some 'puter
troubles in the past and finally got a new computer. Am afraid I have
lost some posts regarding your other kitties. hope all is well and
that the LA earthquake shocks leave you alone. Best wishes. MLB

by **Lesle** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:17:17

Took a great deal of effort on my part not to let them in during

Quote:

> the night. ?We really don't want them climbing on us while we sleep.

Don't make a big thing about it- our bedroom door is always open when
we go to bed I leave it up to the cats- Sarsi will walk over both of
us and sometimes settle down on top of one of us/between us purring
madly and Bonnie sometimes gets on the bed for a late night skritchie
but on the whole assoon as they consider the slaves are safe in bed/
do I REALLY want to sleep on top of a wriggling Hoomin? and sneak off
to the living room for a long sleep..as my partners disability means I
sometimes have to get up in the wee small hours I usually find Sarsi
crashed out on top of the sofa and Bonnie on the chair sound asleep

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

by **bastXXXe..** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:22:54

>> BUT, last night, for the first time, they sat outside our bedroom all night,
>> meowing very softly and scratching the door. Up until now, they stayed
>> downstairs, ate, slept, or did whatever cats do at night. Is this normal
>> behavior?

> Not sure where you live, but if the nights are getting colder (even if
> they are indoors) that's most likely why.

>> Took a great deal of effort on my part not to let them in during
>> the night. We really don't want them climbing on us while we sleep.
>>

> Why not? there's nothing pleasanter than having a nice, warm cat
> "blanket" on a cold night. It may take them a few minutes to get
> settled, but mine certainly don't do much "climbing". (Once I get
> settled down to sleep, so do they - and once asleep, they don't move
> around as much as I do.)

I feel mixed about this. On one hand, you're right - having cats sleep
on the bed with me is very comforting. I usually allow them to come and
go from the bedroom as they see fit.***y almost always spends the entire
night on my bed and Roxy is a frequent visitor.

But the truth is, I never get as good a night's sleep with them than I
do without them. If I'm especially tired, or I need to get up early the
next day, I will shut them out of the bedroom. Another problem is that,
as sweet as it is to have Roxy sleep on me, it usually gives me a backache,
and sometimes I need a break from that. They're both very good kitties
and they don't yowl or bang on the door to be allowed in.

--
Joyce

Mother teach me to walk again
Milk and honey, so intoxicating -- Sarah McLaughlin

by **Arthur Shapi** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:30:17

Quote:

> How are Emma and Giovanni?

Emma still is a rather low-key kitty after 11 months. She growls whenever any
of the others get near. Otherwise, quite pleasant. Unfortunately, she eats
very slowly, and being almost impossible to pill it means that we have to mix
the *** pressure medicine and, now, steroids into her food. If she walks
away, Niobe will soon be wolfing down her food.

Giovanni has come in every night for over five weeks, which is a remarkable
stretch. He's actually getting somewhat friendlier, and once in a great while
I can get a soft purr out of him. Unfortunately, he'll still spray all over
the house with somewhat less frequency than before. He even sleeps on the bed
once in a while, which is quite an improvement over his total aloofness of the
past.

Niobe continues to be a holy terror. The cat has far too much energy for her
own good, but is the only one who will play with Giovanni - who is quite
confused but doesn't mind her. Two nights ago I had the extension ladder up
against the peak of my cathedral ceiling, which my housekeeper is painting,
and up she scampered, happily sitting on the top rung 16 feet up. A couple
weeks back she was doing acrobatics on top of my ten-foot stepladder, swinging
from the top by one paw and going around the paint tray shelf like an acrobat.
Here she is up there during a brief rest:

http://www.moonsgarden.com/

Art

by **MLB** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:39:33

Quote:

> >> BUT, last night, for the first time, they sat outside our bedroom all night,
> >> meowing very softly and scratching the door. Up until now, they stayed
> >> downstairs, ate, slept, or did whatever cats do at night. Is this normal
> >> behavior?

> > Not sure where you live, but if the nights are getting colder (even if
> > they are indoors) that's most likely why.

> >> Took a great deal of effort on my part not to let them in during
> >> the night. We really don't want them climbing on us while we sleep.

> > Why not? there's nothing pleasanter than having a nice, warm cat
> > "blanket" on a cold night. It may take them a few minutes to get
> > settled, but mine certainly don't do much "climbing". (Once I get
> > settled down to sleep, so do they - and once asleep, they don't move
> > around as much as I do.)

> I feel mixed about this. On one hand, you're right - having cats sleep
> on the bed with me is very comforting. I usually allow them to come and
> go from the bedroom as they see fit.***y almost always spends the entire
> night on my bed and Roxy is a frequent visitor.

> But the truth is, I never get as good a night's sleep with them than I
> do without them. If I'm especially tired, or I need to get up early the
> next day, I will shut them out of the bedroom. Another problem is that,
> as sweet as it is to have Roxy sleep on me, it usually gives me a backache,
> and sometimes I need a break from that. They're both very good kitties
> and they don't yowl or bang on the door to be allowed in.

When Princess(Siamese RB 16) used to sleep with me, I had the same
problem I bought a low "parson's table " an inexpensive one -- and then
purchased a heated cat cushion to place on top of it. This was on oner
side of my bed. She really liked it and agreed it was better than
sleeping on a restless meomie. MLB

by **Joy** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:47:25

Quote:

>> BUT, last night, for the first time, they sat outside our bedroom all
>> night, meowing very softly and scratching the door. Up until now, they
>> stayed downstairs, ate, slept, or did whatever cats do at night. Is this
>> normal behavior?

> Not sure where you live, but if the nights are getting colder (even if
> they are indoors) that's most likely why.

>> Took a great deal of effort on my part not to let them in during the
>> night. We really don't want them climbing on us while we sleep.

> Why not? there's nothing pleasanter than having a nice, warm cat
> "blanket" on a cold night. It may take them a few minutes to get settled,
> but mine certainly don't do much "climbing". (Once I get settled down to
> sleep, so do they - and once asleep, they don't move around as much as I
> do.)

I've always found it lovely to have that sort of thing. In fact, I'm sad
that neither of my cats want to cuddle up next to me in bed. They usually
sleep on the foot of the bed.

However, my daughter and son-in-law had to shut their cats out of the
bedroom because Acey (RB), a fairly good-sized cat, was extremely restless,
jumping up on the bed, usually on one of them, tromping across pillows and
faces, then jumping down. She did this several times a night.

Joy

by **bastXXXe..** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:20:27

> Niobe continues to be a holy terror. The cat has far too much energy for her
> own good, but is the only one who will play with Giovanni - who is quite
> confused but doesn't mind her. Two nights ago I had the extension ladder up
> against the peak of my cathedral ceiling, which my housekeeper is painting,
> and up she scampered, happily sitting on the top rung 16 feet up. A couple
> weeks back she was doing acrobatics on top of my ten-foot stepladder, swinging
> from the top by one paw and going around the paint tray shelf like an acrobat.
> Here she is up there during a brief rest:

> http://www.ocrebels.com/NiobeOnLadderResized.jpg

Aw... 6 months old and on top of the world. (How old is she, actually? She
looks about 6 months old, give or take.)

--
Joyce

If an animal does something, they call it instinct. If we do exactly
the same thing for the same reason, they call it intelligence.
-- Will Cuppy

by **Arthur Shapi** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:28:11

Quote:

> (How old is she, actually? She
>looks about 6 months old, give or take.)

When we got her at the beginning of August, they asserted that she was about a
year old. I haven't cut her open to count the rings, but the vet thought that
was a reasonable guess.

I thought that would be old enough to calm down - Wrong!

I still haven't yet gotten a photo of her next to Giovanni. (She's never
still long enough.) The difference in size is remarkable.

Art

by **MLB** » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:30:26

Quote:

>> How are Emma and Giovanni?

> Emma still is a rather low-key kitty after 11 months. She growls whenever any
> of the others get near. Otherwise, quite pleasant. Unfortunately, she eats
> very slowly, and being almost impossible to pill it means that we have to mix
> the *** pressure medicine and, now, steroids into her food. If she walks
> away, Niobe will soon be wolfing down her food.

> Giovanni has come in every night for over five weeks, which is a remarkable
> stretch. He's actually getting somewhat friendlier, and once in a great while
> I can get a soft purr out of him. Unfortunately, he'll still spray all over
> the house with somewhat less frequency than before. He even sleeps on the bed
> once in a while, which is quite an improvement over his total aloofness of the
> past.

> Niobe continues to be a holy terror. The cat has far too much energy for her
> own good, but is the only one who will play with Giovanni - who is quite
> confused but doesn't mind her. Two nights ago I had the extension ladder up
> against the peak of my cathedral ceiling, which my housekeeper is painting,
> and up she scampered, happily sitting on the top rung 16 feet up. A couple
> weeks back she was doing acrobatics on top of my ten-foot stepladder, swinging
> from the top by one paw and going around the paint tray shelf like an acrobat.
> Here she is up there during a brief rest:

> http://www.moonsgarden.com/

> Art

She looks bright and full of curiosity. I'll bet she is lots of fun to
watch. Have you ever updated your blog? I must get it on this new
computer. I did not have anything transferred from the old one.
Best wishes to you and hour furkids. MLB

Moon's Graden

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