My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

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My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Sherr » Sun, 11 May 2003 04:40:10



Quote:
>Big pure-bred Maine Coon, indoor cat, maybe 20 lbs, not yet
>7 years old.  I found him collapsed and making a ***
>noise, checked his mouth for obstructions, and rushed him to
>the vet, but he was dead by the time I got there.

I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your "gentle giant."  I have a friend
who breeds MC and she lost one to cardiomyopathy; sometimes, unfortunately, it
just happens. Six isn't old at all for a Maine Coon. If you're still able to
contact the breeder you got him from, you might check and see if any of the
other kittens were afflicted with the same thing; it might give you some
insight on the health of your other cat. PKD is another genetically-linked
problem that some MC's inherit.

Sherry

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Kare » Sun, 11 May 2003 04:46:24


I'm so sorry to hear this. Maine Coons are particularly susceptible to
cardiac problems. If it was, he did very well to live to 7. Many times,
untreated heart problems (which is not uncommon as it is VERY difficult to
diagnose until symptoms appear and if they never appear, you have no reason
to diagnose and the first symptom is then death) lead to death MUCH earlier
than that. Very, very sorry.

Karen

Quote:

> Big pure-bred Maine Coon, indoor cat, maybe 20 lbs, not yet
> 7 years old.  I found him collapsed and making a ***
> noise, checked his mouth for obstructions, and rushed him to
> the vet, but he was dead by the time I got there.

> The vet said it was likely due to cardiac problems - WTF?
> The cat was big, but not overweight - we kept him and his
> sister on Hills Science Diet Light and he never showed any
> signs of ill health prior to the attack that killed him. In
> fact, he was happily chasing her around a few hours prior.

> Are cardiac problems specific to the Maine Coon breed? We
> spent $1000 on these two kittens from a recommended Maine
> Coon breeder 6 years ago specifically to avoid health
> problems. Is the age of six considered old for a male Maine
> Coon?

> I'm taking his sister in to the vet to get checked out -
> hopefully she'll be around a lot longer. Her brother was one
> great cat - laid-back, very friendly to everyone, a real
> clown. We're already missing him.

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Jenn » Sun, 11 May 2003 04:58:53


Quote:

> Big pure-bred Maine Coon, indoor cat, maybe 20 lbs, not yet
> 7 years old.  I found him collapsed and making a ***
> noise, checked his mouth for obstructions, and rushed him to
> the vet, but he was dead by the time I got there.

> The vet said it was likely due to cardiac problems - WTF?
> The cat was big, but not overweight - we kept him and his
> sister on Hills Science Diet Light and he never showed any
> signs of ill health prior to the attack that killed him. In
> fact, he was happily chasing her around a few hours prior.

> Are cardiac problems specific to the Maine Coon breed? We
> spent $1000 on these two kittens from a recommended Maine
> Coon breeder 6 years ago specifically to avoid health
> problems. Is the age of six considered old for a male Maine
> Coon?

> I'm taking his sister in to the vet to get checked out -
> hopefully she'll be around a lot longer. Her brother was one
> great cat - laid-back, very friendly to everyone, a real
> clown. We're already missing him.

I don't have any advice, but wanted to give you my condolences.
 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Yngv » Sun, 11 May 2003 05:21:25


Quote:

>Are cardiac problems specific to the Maine Coon breed? We
>spent $1000 on these two kittens from a recommended Maine
>Coon breeder 6 years ago specifically to avoid health
>problems. Is the age of six considered old for a male Maine
>Coon?

>I'm taking his sister in to the vet to get checked out -
>hopefully she'll be around a lot longer. Her brother was one
>great cat - laid-back, very friendly to everyone, a real
>clown. We're already missing him.

My condolences on the loss of your cat. To answer your question, yet,
hypertrophic cardiomyopathy is the leading cause of sudden death in cats and
may be genetic in certain breeds of cats, in particular the Maine Coon.
However, symptoms of the genetic kind of HCM usually show up by the age of 4,
so that may not have been what happened to your cat.

You are doing the right thing to have his sister checked. The most accurate way
to check for HCM is with an ultrasound of the heart. If you can catch it early,
there are treatments that can help your cat live a relatively normal life.
Unfortunately with some cats, there are no symptoms until the cat suddenly
dies.

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Li » Sun, 11 May 2003 13:04:36


Very sorry for you loss too. It must be terrible to loose a loved kitty so suddenly.
 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Lynn K » Sun, 11 May 2003 14:16:02


| Big pure-bred Maine Coon, indoor cat, maybe 20 lbs, not yet
| 7 years old.  I found him collapsed and making a ***
| noise, checked his mouth for obstructions, and rushed him to
| the vet, but he was dead by the time I got there.

I'm so sorry to hear about your cat... that's terrible!

|
| The vet said it was likely due to cardiac problems - WTF?
| The cat was big, but not overweight - we kept him and his
| sister on Hills Science Diet Light and he never showed any
| signs of ill health prior to the attack that killed him. In
| fact, he was happily chasing her around a few hours prior.

Unfortunately overweight has nothing to do with heart problems. It is just something with
the larger breed cats.

|
| Are cardiac problems specific to the Maine Coon breed? We
| spent $1000 on these two kittens from a recommended Maine
| Coon breeder 6 years ago specifically to avoid health
| problems. Is the age of six considered old for a male Maine
| Coon?

No, cardiac problems are not "specific" to Maine Coons, but do plague the large breed
cats. And, no, 6 is not old for a Maine Coon. My Charlie was somewhere between 14 and 16
when he died. I'm not sure of his age, as he was a rescue.

|
| I'm taking his sister in to the vet to get checked out -
| hopefully she'll be around a lot longer. Her brother was one
| great cat - laid-back, very friendly to everyone, a real
| clown. We're already missing him.

Having the sister checked out is a great idea. Better safe than sorry. Your boy sounds a
lot like my Charlie was...great cat and still sorely missed.
Lynn

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Hele » Sun, 11 May 2003 17:43:32



Quote:


> | The vet said it was likely due to cardiac problems - WTF?
> | The cat was big, but not overweight - we kept him and his
> | sister on Hills Science Diet Light and he never showed any
> | signs of ill health prior to the attack that killed him. In
> | fact, he was happily chasing her around a few hours prior.

> Unfortunately overweight has nothing to do with heart problems. It is just
something with
> the larger breed cats.

> |
> | Are cardiac problems specific to the Maine Coon breed? We
> | spent $1000 on these two kittens from a recommended Maine
> | Coon breeder 6 years ago specifically to avoid health
> | problems. Is the age of six considered old for a male Maine
> | Coon?

> No, cardiac problems are not "specific" to Maine Coons, but do plague the
large breed
> cats.

This is not correct. It is breed-related, but has nothing to do with size of
the breed. HCM is relatively common in Persians, Maine Coons and Ragdolls.
Persians can hardly be described as a large breed. My Persian boy has it and
his normal weight is 10 lbs.

Helen
--
A comprehensive guide to feline chronic renal failure -
symptoms, diagnosis, treatments and how to cope with it:
http://www.felinecrf.org

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Hele » Sun, 11 May 2003 17:47:42


Quote:

> However, symptoms of the genetic kind of HCM usually show up by the age of
4,
> so that may not have been what happened to your cat.

Actually, HCM is most commonly found in male cats between the ages of 4 and
8. My cat's HCM was diagnosed when he was seven.

Plus the whole point about HCM is that you so rarely see symptoms. That's
why it's often the case that the cat dies before the problem is detected. It
seems quite possible that the OP's cat did have undiagnosed HCM.

Helen

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Hele » Sun, 11 May 2003 17:59:04


Quote:

> Thanks very much to everyone for the information and
> condolences. It's clear that we didn't have enough
> information on the health risks for Maine Coons. I have a
> couple of further questions:

> - what is the treatment for cardio myopathy? Is it
> medicinal or surgical?

It is medicinal. There is a brief summary of the different types of meds
here:

http://www.felinecrf.org/related_diseases.htm#HCM1

My cat's been on meds for almost four years and although we had ups and
downs in the first year or so, he stabilised and his heart disease has
actually improved as a result of the meds. In fact, the cardiologist
recently said that he now thinks that the HCM may not affect his life span;
and this about a cat who at one stage was too weak to climb the stairs. So
don't give up hope if your girl has it, it may be treatable.

Quote:
> - if we get Maine Coons in the future, can I assume that it
> is necessary to have their hearts checked out using
> ultrasound once a year or more often?

It's a personal choice, but I think I'd do it, though I'm not sure at what
age you would need to begin. If your vet discovers HCM in your girl cat, I'd
recommend you ask for a referral to a cardiologist.

I'm very sorry for your loss )-:

Helen

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Sherr » Sun, 11 May 2003 21:46:04


Quote:
>> No, cardiac problems are not "specific" to Maine Coons, but do plague the
>large breed
>> cats.

>This is not correct. It is breed-related, but has nothing to do with size of
>the breed. HCM is relatively common in Persians, Maine Coons and Ragdolls.
>Persians can hardly be described as a large breed. My Persian boy has it and
>his normal weight is 10 lbs.

>Helen
>--

I was also under the impression that large cats are more prone to heart
problems, and stroke. My vet actually told me that when my old cat had a
stroke. I've done a little reading and can't find anything that corroborates
this. Wonder if that's just a myth?

Sherry

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Kim » Sun, 11 May 2003 22:42:20


On the Cat Fancy web site (www.catfancy.com) under breed profiles it says
the following about Maine Coons.

"Their natural origins make Maine Coons a sturdy breed, however, several
breeders mentioned two issues-cardiomyopathy and hip dysplasia-that have
become topics of concern in recent years. A hereditary form of
cardiomyopathy, a disease that causes heart failure or a *** clot that
leads to stroke, has been identified in some cats. Hip dysplasia, joint
condition often seen in large-breed dogs, is also being hotly debated in the
cat fancy."

To the person who lost their maine coon recently: I'm really sorry for your
loss.


Quote:
> >> No, cardiac problems are not "specific" to Maine Coons, but do plague
the
> >large breed
> >> cats.

> >This is not correct. It is breed-related, but has nothing to do with size
of
> >the breed. HCM is relatively common in Persians, Maine Coons and
Ragdolls.
> >Persians can hardly be described as a large breed. My Persian boy has it
and
> >his normal weight is 10 lbs.

> >Helen
> >--
> I was also under the impression that large cats are more prone to heart
> problems, and stroke. My vet actually told me that when my old cat had a
> stroke. I've done a little reading and can't find anything that
corroborates
> this. Wonder if that's just a myth?

> Sherry

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by Lynn K » Sun, 11 May 2003 23:13:43





| >
| > | The vet said it was likely due to cardiac problems - WTF?
| > | The cat was big, but not overweight - we kept him and his
| > | sister on Hills Science Diet Light and he never showed any
| > | signs of ill health prior to the attack that killed him. In
| > | fact, he was happily chasing her around a few hours prior.
| >
| > Unfortunately overweight has nothing to do with heart problems. It is just
| something with
| > the larger breed cats.
| >
| > |
| > | Are cardiac problems specific to the Maine Coon breed? We
| > | spent $1000 on these two kittens from a recommended Maine
| > | Coon breeder 6 years ago specifically to avoid health
| > | problems. Is the age of six considered old for a male Maine
| > | Coon?
| >
| > No, cardiac problems are not "specific" to Maine Coons, but do plague the
| large breed
| > cats.
|
| This is not correct. It is breed-related, but has nothing to do with size of
| the breed. HCM is relatively common in Persians, Maine Coons and Ragdolls.
| Persians can hardly be described as a large breed. My Persian boy has it and
| his normal weight is 10 lbs.

I stand corrected. I will be sure to pass this information onto my vet and let him know
he was wrong to tell me such a thing.
Lynn

|
| Helen
| --
| A comprehensive guide to feline chronic renal failure -
| symptoms, diagnosis, treatments and how to cope with it:
| http://www.felinecrf.org
|
|
|

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by OrangeFluffy.. » Mon, 12 May 2003 04:56:24


"Unfortunately overweight has nothing to do with heart problems."

Dangerous statement above. Completely untrue.
While a particular breed may be more prone to heart problems,
overall, in cats, excess weight can lead to heart problems.
Excess weight alone can cause the loss of a cat at age 5 even.

Don't contribute to people not taking "overweight" as serious.
It is, and can be deadly.

 
 
 

My Maine Coon dropped dead last night - some questions

Post by OrangeFluffy.. » Mon, 12 May 2003 05:02:49


| > Unfortunately overweight has nothing to do with heart problems.

Quote:
> I stand corrected. I will be sure to pass this information onto my vet and let him know
> he was wrong to tell me such a thing.
> Lynn

If a vet told you "overweight has nothing to do with heart problems"
get a new vet. A cat's heart can fail due solely to being overweight.

Suddenly "Fluffy's" weight isn't so cute, and his "favorite snacks"
aren't so "mandatory" when he's died as a result.

Want the longest healthiest life possible? Watching their weight is
part of acheiving that.