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Post by Bastett » Mon, 07 May 2012 09:15:06



I wanted to ask a question on the health+behav group but there
are no articles. Has everyone left that group?

Maybe someone here can help me. I'm looking for a product, so
I'm not whether people outside this country can help, but here
goes: I need a UV light. (Or is it a black light? Are they the
same thing?) What I need is a light that shows cat pee in the
dark.

I bought one a few years ago, when Smudge was accidentally
trapped in my car overnight (because I didn't see her jump
in), and she peed on the car floor. The following night, I
brought the light out to the car, but it didn't show me
anything. And yet, I could smell the pee, so evidently that
light was useless. So I need something better than that.

Can anyone recommend a reliable brand? If it's something I
can buy in a retail store, so much the better - I'd rather
not wait for mail order if I don't absolutely have to. (I
think Joy is the closest to me, geographically - do you know
of any good brands available locally?)

I've already bought a big honking bottle of Nature's Miracle
and have dumped a bunch of it (twice) on the place where the
pee was. However, days later, it still smells of pee. I'm not
sure what that indicates. I didn't get all the pee areas?
(That's what the light would help with.) The pee soaked through
the carpet and into the wood floor? (From what I've heard,
that would be a disaster.) Nature's Miracle isn't so miraculous?
I couldn't have bought a more appropriate kind, as this one is
meant to deal with feline urine.

Anyone have advice related to:

* UV/black lights that show cat pee in the dark?
* Other products besides Nature's Miracle that might undo the odor?

Not looking for any other advice, thanks.

--
Joyce

- Mommy loves you too my sweaty litter baby fire
- Ummm what mom?
- MY SWEET LITTLE BABY GIRL!! sorry honey!
                                -- damnyouautocorrect.com

 
 
 

Help: health+behav group dead?

Post by MLB » Mon, 07 May 2012 09:31:20



Quote:
> I wanted to ask a question on the health+behav group but there
> are no articles. Has everyone left that group?

> Maybe someone here can help me. I'm looking for a product, so
> I'm not whether people outside this country can help, but here
> goes: I need a UV light. (Or is it a black light? Are they the
> same thing?) What I need is a light that shows cat pee in the
> dark.

> I bought one a few years ago, when Smudge was accidentally
> trapped in my car overnight (because I didn't see her jump
> in), and she peed on the car floor. The following night, I
> brought the light out to the car, but it didn't show me
> anything. And yet, I could smell the pee, so evidently that
> light was useless. So I need something better than that.

> Can anyone recommend a reliable brand? If it's something I
> can buy in a retail store, so much the better - I'd rather
> not wait for mail order if I don't absolutely have to. (I
> think Joy is the closest to me, geographically - do you know
> of any good brands available locally?)

> I've already bought a big honking bottle of Nature's Miracle
> and have dumped a bunch of it (twice) on the place where the
> pee was. However, days later, it still smells of pee. I'm not
> sure what that indicates. I didn't get all the pee areas?
> (That's what the light would help with.) The pee soaked through
> the carpet and into the wood floor? (From what I've heard,
> that would be a disaster.) Nature's Miracle isn't so miraculous?
> I couldn't have bought a more appropriate kind, as this one is
> meant to deal with feline urine.

> Anyone have advice related to:

> * UV/black lights that show cat pee in the dark?
> * Other products besides Nature's Miracle that might undo the odor?

> Not looking for any other advice, thanks.

I bought one at Foster Smith a few years ago.  Check out "pet supply
stores" on the "puter./  MLB
 
 
 

Help: health+behav group dead?

Post by Mish » Mon, 07 May 2012 09:43:15



Quote:
> I wanted to ask a question on the health+behav group but there
> are no articles. Has everyone left that group?

> Maybe someone here can help me. I'm looking for a product, so
> I'm not whether people outside this country can help, but here
> goes: I need a UV light. (Or is it a black light? Are they the
> same thing?) What I need is a light that shows cat pee in the
> dark.

> I bought one a few years ago, when Smudge was accidentally
> trapped in my car overnight (because I didn't see her jump
> in), and she peed on the car floor. The following night, I
> brought the light out to the car, but it didn't show me
> anything. And yet, I could smell the pee, so evidently that
> light was useless. So I need something better than that.

> Can anyone recommend a reliable brand? If it's something I
> can buy in a retail store, so much the better - I'd rather
> not wait for mail order if I don't absolutely have to. (I
> think Joy is the closest to me, geographically - do you know
> of any good brands available locally?)

> I've already bought a big honking bottle of Nature's Miracle
> and have dumped a bunch of it (twice) on the place where the
> pee was. However, days later, it still smells of pee. I'm not
> sure what that indicates. I didn't get all the pee areas?
> (That's what the light would help with.) The pee soaked through
> the carpet and into the wood floor? (From what I've heard,
> that would be a disaster.) Nature's Miracle isn't so miraculous?
> I couldn't have bought a more appropriate kind, as this one is
> meant to deal with feline urine.

> Anyone have advice related to:

> * UV/black lights that show cat pee in the dark?
> * Other products besides Nature's Miracle that might undo the odor?

> Not looking for any other advice, thanks.

The rescue group I am on recommends FON (Feline Odor Neutralizer)
they say it works better than Nature's Miracle. PetsMart has the
black lights - I think they are also known as Woods lights.
 
 
 

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Post by jmcquow » Mon, 07 May 2012 10:22:05



Quote:
> I wanted to ask a question on the health+behav group but there
> are no articles. Has everyone left that group?

I have no idea.

(snippage)

Quote:
> I've already bought a big honking bottle of Nature's Miracle
> and have dumped a bunch of it (twice) on the place where the
> pee was. However, days later, it still smells of pee. I'm not
> sure what that indicates. I didn't get all the pee areas?

(snippage)

Quote:
> * UV/black lights that show cat pee in the dark?
> * Other products besides Nature's Miracle that might undo the odor?

> Not looking for any other advice, thanks.

> --
> Joyce

Please relax :)  I know what I'm about to tell you isn't about cat pee or
black lights.  But it is about getting rid of stubborn odors. (Gawd, I sound
like a commercial!)  Once I bought some fresh fish and the wrapped package
fell out of the grocery bag in the trunk of my car.  I didn't notice.  That
was on hot summer Friday.  I didn't get back into the car until Sunday.
OMG!  After finding and throwing away the fish, guess what solved the
problem?  Febreez  I'm not kidding.

Jill

 
 
 

Help: health+behav group dead?

Post by Joy » Mon, 07 May 2012 14:51:07



Quote:

>> I wanted to ask a question on the health+behav group but there
>> are no articles. Has everyone left that group?

>> Maybe someone here can help me. I'm looking for a product, so
>> I'm not whether people outside this country can help, but here
>> goes: I need a UV light. (Or is it a black light? Are they the
>> same thing?) What I need is a light that shows cat pee in the
>> dark.

>> I bought one a few years ago, when Smudge was accidentally
>> trapped in my car overnight (because I didn't see her jump
>> in), and she peed on the car floor. The following night, I
>> brought the light out to the car, but it didn't show me
>> anything. And yet, I could smell the pee, so evidently that
>> light was useless. So I need something better than that.

>> Can anyone recommend a reliable brand? If it's something I
>> can buy in a retail store, so much the better - I'd rather
>> not wait for mail order if I don't absolutely have to. (I
>> think Joy is the closest to me, geographically - do you know
>> of any good brands available locally?)

>> I've already bought a big honking bottle of Nature's Miracle
>> and have dumped a bunch of it (twice) on the place where the
>> pee was. However, days later, it still smells of pee. I'm not
>> sure what that indicates. I didn't get all the pee areas?
>> (That's what the light would help with.) The pee soaked through
>> the carpet and into the wood floor? (From what I've heard,
>> that would be a disaster.) Nature's Miracle isn't so miraculous?
>> I couldn't have bought a more appropriate kind, as this one is
>> meant to deal with feline urine.

>> Anyone have advice related to:

>> * UV/black lights that show cat pee in the dark?
>> * Other products besides Nature's Miracle that might undo the odor?

>> Not looking for any other advice, thanks.

> The rescue group I am on recommends FON (Feline Odor Neutralizer)
> they say it works better than Nature's Miracle. PetsMart has the
> black lights - I think they are also known as Woods lights.

I used to use FON, and I liked it a lot, but I had trouble finding it.  When
I asked my vet about it, she recommended Nature's Miracle.  However, when
that's gone, I may switch back to FON.  I should be able to find it on line.

Joy

 
 
 

Help: health+behav group dead?

Post by Bastett » Mon, 07 May 2012 18:25:11


 > Once I bought some fresh fish and the wrapped package fell out
 > of the grocery bag in the trunk of my car.  I didn't notice.  That
 > was on hot summer Friday.  I didn't get back into the car until Sunday.
 > OMG!  After finding and throwing away the fish, guess what solved the
 > problem?  Febreez  I'm not kidding.

I bought Febreeze recently because I have a piece of foam on top of my
mattress that had started to smell of old sweat. I've been told that
this is because I don't have a mattress cover. So I sprayed both sides
with Febreeze and let it dry out. It did help somewhat, but now the smell
is back, and it's only been maybe a month since I sprayed. So I guess it
doesn't work for everything. In my experience, *nothing* works as
advertised. But I'm getting desperate, so it might be worth a try.

But first, I have to *see* where the pee is so know where to spray it!
So a good black light is the first order of business.

Joyce

 
 
 

Help: health+behav group dead?

Post by Bastett » Mon, 07 May 2012 18:27:16



 >> I wanted to ask a question on the health+behav group but there
 >> are no articles. Has everyone left that group?
 >>
 >> Maybe someone here can help me. I'm looking for a product, so
 >> I'm not whether people outside this country can help, but here
 >> goes: I need a UV light. (Or is it a black light? Are they the
 >> same thing?) What I need is a light that shows cat pee in the
 >> dark.
 >>
 >> I bought one a few years ago, when Smudge was accidentally
 >> trapped in my car overnight (because I didn't see her jump
 >> in), and she peed on the car floor. The following night, I
 >> brought the light out to the car, but it didn't show me
 >> anything. And yet, I could smell the pee, so evidently that
 >> light was useless. So I need something better than that.
 >>
 >> Can anyone recommend a reliable brand? If it's something I
 >> can buy in a retail store, so much the better - I'd rather
 >> not wait for mail order if I don't absolutely have to. (I
 >> think Joy is the closest to me, geographically - do you know
 >> of any good brands available locally?)
 >>
 >> I've already bought a big honking bottle of Nature's Miracle
 >> and have dumped a bunch of it (twice) on the place where the
 >> pee was. However, days later, it still smells of pee. I'm not
 >> sure what that indicates. I didn't get all the pee areas?
 >> (That's what the light would help with.) The pee soaked through
 >> the carpet and into the wood floor? (From what I've heard,
 >> that would be a disaster.) Nature's Miracle isn't so miraculous?
 >> I couldn't have bought a more appropriate kind, as this one is
 >> meant to deal with feline urine.
 >>
 >> Anyone have advice related to:
 >>
 >> * UV/black lights that show cat pee in the dark?
 >> * Other products besides Nature's Miracle that might undo the odor?
 >>
 >> Not looking for any other advice, thanks.
 >>
 > The rescue group I am on recommends FON (Feline Odor Neutralizer)
 > they say it works better than Nature's Miracle. PetsMart has the
 > black lights - I think they are also known as Woods lights.

Thanks for the tip about the black light. PetsMart is local to me so
I should be able to find one!

--
Joyce

A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're dead.
                                                      -- Leo Rosten

 
 
 

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Post by Storrmme » Mon, 07 May 2012 19:10:14


you want a black light, the kind that you see in poster shops if that helps,

now as to the floor, if you have carpetting the chances its in the padding
is the culprit, so you are really going to have to soak it, if you can get a
needle and syringe like a diabetic uses to inject the cleaning agent into
the carpet it might help... also you can try injecting a strong perfume into
the area to at least mask the odor... and for my money zero odor is one of
the best products out there to kill an odor outright.

hth Lee


Quote:
>I wanted to ask a question on the health+behav group but there
> are no articles. Has everyone left that group?

> Maybe someone here can help me. I'm looking for a product, so
> I'm not whether people outside this country can help, but here
> goes: I need a UV light. (Or is it a black light? Are they the
> same thing?) What I need is a light that shows cat pee in the
> dark.

> I bought one a few years ago, when Smudge was accidentally
> trapped in my car overnight (because I didn't see her jump
> in), and she peed on the car floor. The following night, I
> brought the light out to the car, but it didn't show me
> anything. And yet, I could smell the pee, so evidently that
> light was useless. So I need something better than that.

> Can anyone recommend a reliable brand? If it's something I
> can buy in a retail store, so much the better - I'd rather
> not wait for mail order if I don't absolutely have to. (I
> think Joy is the closest to me, geographically - do you know
> of any good brands available locally?)

> I've already bought a big honking bottle of Nature's Miracle
> and have dumped a bunch of it (twice) on the place where the
> pee was. However, days later, it still smells of pee. I'm not
> sure what that indicates. I didn't get all the pee areas?
> (That's what the light would help with.) The pee soaked through
> the carpet and into the wood floor? (From what I've heard,
> that would be a disaster.) Nature's Miracle isn't so miraculous?
> I couldn't have bought a more appropriate kind, as this one is
> meant to deal with feline urine.

> Anyone have advice related to:

> * UV/black lights that show cat pee in the dark?
> * Other products besides Nature's Miracle that might undo the odor?

> Not looking for any other advice, thanks.

> --
> Joyce

> - Mommy loves you too my sweaty litter baby fire
> - Ummm what mom?
> - MY SWEET LITTLE BABY GIRL!! sorry honey!
>                                -- damnyouautocorrect.com

 
 
 

Help: health+behav group dead?

Post by Storrmme » Mon, 07 May 2012 19:13:53


the zero odor i mention is like fabreeze on steriods, costs more also, but
tiger was allergic to the faabreeze and not to the zero odor, also you use
less, Lee

Quote:



>> I wanted to ask a question on the health+behav group but there
>> are no articles. Has everyone left that group?

> I have no idea.

> (snippage)

>> I've already bought a big honking bottle of Nature's Miracle
>> and have dumped a bunch of it (twice) on the place where the
>> pee was. However, days later, it still smells of pee. I'm not
>> sure what that indicates. I didn't get all the pee areas?
> (snippage)

>> * UV/black lights that show cat pee in the dark?
>> * Other products besides Nature's Miracle that might undo the odor?

>> Not looking for any other advice, thanks.

>> --
>> Joyce

> Please relax :)  I know what I'm about to tell you isn't about cat pee or
> black lights.  But it is about getting rid of stubborn odors. (Gawd, I
> sound like a commercial!)  Once I bought some fresh fish and the wrapped
> package fell out of the grocery bag in the trunk of my car.  I didn't
> notice.  That was on hot summer Friday.  I didn't get back into the car
> until Sunday. OMG!  After finding and throwing away the fish, guess what
> solved the problem?  Febreez  I'm not kidding.

> Jill

 
 
 

Help: health+behav group dead?

Post by ---MIKE- » Mon, 07 May 2012 21:26:27


The group is not dead--yet.  There are 23 posts - the latest is May 3rd.

---MIKE---

In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
(44 15' N - Elevation 1580')

 
 
 

Help: health+behav group dead?

Post by Mary » Mon, 07 May 2012 23:29:52


I wanted to ask a question on the health+behav group but there
are no articles. Has everyone left that group?

Maybe someone here can help me. I'm looking for a product, so
I'm not whether people outside this country can help, but here
goes: I need a UV light. (Or is it a black light? Are they the
same thing?) What I need is a light that shows cat pee in the
dark.

Can anyone recommend a reliable brand? If it's something I
can buy in a retail store, so much the better - I'd rather
not wait for mail order if I don't absolutely have to. (I
think Joy is the closest to me, geographically - do you know
of any good brands available locally?)
<snip>
Anyone have advice related to:

* UV/black lights that show cat pee in the dark?
* Other products besides Nature's Miracle that might undo the odor?

Not looking for any other advice, thanks.

--
Joyce

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm not familiar with brands, but you might also look under the name "Wood's
Lamp."  The names Wood's lamp and UV light seem to be used interchangeably.
In fact, Wood's lamps are often used by vets to help diagnose ringworm.  As
with so many things, there is a wide variation in price, and the cheaper
ones often are not effective.

The health+behav group still exists, but it is not very active.  I think the
"beginning of the end" came a few years ago when one woman continually
posted negative messages and then would always say "It's usenet...get used
to it" if anyone complained.  However, there are still a few knowledgeable
people who will respond when questions are posted.

MaryL

 
 
 

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Post by Anni » Tue, 08 May 2012 02:53:29


Quote:

> the zero odor i mention is like fabreeze on steriods, costs more also, but
> tiger was allergic to the faabreeze and not to the zero odor, also you use
> less, Lee

I swear by Zero Odor.  Works great on the foam bed toppers too.  I hope it isn't "memory foam" though.  That stuff should never be gotten *wet* wet.  I order online, get the box of 6 spray bottles for $45 (or something like that), and those last me at least 6 months.

I also use something made by Bissell called ewwww.  Got it at PetSmart too.  That works for cat pee (Leonidas apparently hates the MiL's old pillows on the couch, so I am always washing them, then spraying some ewww on the actually sofa - which can't *be* washed - works pretty well).

We also use Febreze (anti-allergen).  Everyone I know is allergic to my cats, so that helps them when they visit me <grin>.

 
 
 

Help: health+behav group dead?

Post by Jack Campi » Tue, 08 May 2012 06:32:21


Quote:
> Maybe someone here can help me. I'm looking for a product, so
> I'm not whether people outside this country can help, but here
> goes: I need a UV light. (Or is it a black light? Are they the
> same thing?) What I need is a light that shows cat pee in the
> dark.

A friend of mine bought a really neat torch on EBay a few years ago.
Concentric circles of LEDs.  The middle was a laser pointer LED,
around that was a ring of six UV LEDs intended for examining
security codes on merchandise, and around that was a ring of white
LEDS you could use as an ordinary torch.

I didn't get to use the other parts for real, but our cats said the
red dot was great.

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