Meow meow meow meow.....

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Meow meow meow meow.....

Post by Yusuf B Gurse » Tue, 21 May 2002 02:06:24




:> Anyone else hear of the research study; I think in England; on how
:> meowing in cats developed in response to human behaviour?  The guy who
:> published the study was interviewed on the CBC Afternoon Show (radio)
:> here the other day and it was pretty interesting.  Some obvious things -
:> short, screechy meows are alarms, soft, sweet ones are begging etc. -
:> but he actually managed to quantify these observations apparently.

: This all reminds me of when my cat had her kittens.  She called her kittens
: to her by making a grunting/hissing type sound.  I tried to call them to me
: to no avail, but when I tried as best I could to mimic her grunting/hissing
: sound, they came right to me.

: Ever since this incident, I'm firmly convinced that animals do indeed have
: "language" or at least some kind of communication system, though we as
: humans may not always understand it.  I'm also convinced that cats usually
: understand at least the basic language of their humans, they just don't
: always do what their told, haha.

: My grandma's neighbor had a cat that would call her "mama".  That was at
: least her meow a lot of the time.

yes, I have heard much of cats mimicking human sounds.

"mama" in turkish means "chow", a command my cats understand all too well.
one of them, also a voracious eater and a chatterbox, mimicks the sound
when she wants food (that is very often).

: I wonder if anyone has done any serious study on animal "language" and has
: tried to decipher if any "dialects" exist, (Stop laughing.  <g>) or at least
: studied an animla to be able to discern "words" or animal equivalent of the
: idea (grunting, hissing, meowing, whatever).  ;-)  It is an interesting
: subject.  They at least have some kind of verbal communication it would
: seem, IMHO.  I know others may differ in their opinions.

: Larry

 
 
 

Meow meow meow meow.....

Post by Yusuf B Gurse » Tue, 21 May 2002 13:27:41




:> : Anyone else hear of the research study; I think in England; on how
:> : meowing in cats developed in response to human behaviour?  The guy who
:> : published the study was interviewed on the CBC Afternoon Show (radio)
:> : here the other day and it was pretty interesting.  Some obvious things -
:> : short, screechy meows are alarms, soft, sweet ones are begging etc. -
:> : but he actually managed to quantify these observations apparently.
:>
:> : He did maintain that cats don't meow with each other, but use other
:> : forms of cat-language; and that meowing is primarily a cat-human thing
:> : which cats developed to get us to do what they want (which is what cats
:> : are about, of course); IIRC he studied wild cats as well as domestics,
:> : and African wild cats (the domestic cat's "immediate ancestor") as well.
:>
:> : I differ with him on the no-meowing-between-cats thing, though; I've
:>
:> well, at least their "love songs" involve some sort of meowing, IMHO.

: Sort of "mmrrowing" from what I remember of various tomcats in heat that
: used to sit outside the parents' bedroom window calling for our housecat
: to come and play.  Not a "mee-ow" but a "mrrrrrrrrraaaaawwwwwww" ("come
: and get it, baby").

: Just checked CBC Radio's website; the show was "As It Happens", a
: national news-documentary show that intersperses itself with the
: dinnertime National newscast; their summary of the Friday May 15 show
: has "Just about everyone with a feline for a friend has suspected that
: cats are skilled manipulators. But now there's scientific proof. Nick
: Nicastro is a graduate student at Cornell University."

: The show is archived online as a RealPlayer item: on page
: http://www.moonsgarden.com/
: "Listen to Part 1 of As It Happens"; Part 1 of the show is 1/2 hour long
: but if you ffwd to about 21 minutes into the show you'll find the
: cat/Nicastro item/interview.

: "As It Happens" has all kinds of crazy stuff on it.  Friday's show
: featured something about female trout faking ***s......

:>
:> OTOH cats do meow differently to humans, I agree. one of our cats, which
:> is very "talkitive" seems to even mimick the accentuation of turkish
:> sentences (being in a turkish speaking home) in her series of meows aimed
:> at us.

: "Get me the raki", "I want some fish", "clean my catbox" etc.?

raki?! the little lovable rascals are difficutl enough to manage sober!

:>
:> on the lighter side, in terms of popular reading, I enjoyed "how to talk
:> to your cat", which was a useful and fun guide ot cat gestures and sounds.
:>
:> : heard cats "talk" to each other for a while, and it's an interesting mix
:> : of meows, burrs and growls, trills and other noises; but definitely
:> : including meows; but these _were_ highly domesticated cats so you have
:> : to suppose that meowing would be part of their "dialect".
:>
:> : Anyway, not sure where to look or how to search for these guys' paper;
:> : supposedly it was legitimate.
:>
:> : --
:> : Mike Cleven
:> : http://www.moonsgarden.com/ (Bridge River Lillooet history)
:> : http://www.moonsgarden.com/ (Chinook Jargon phrasebook/history)
:>

: --
: Mike Cleven
: http://www.moonsgarden.com/ (Bridge River Lillooet history)
: http://www.moonsgarden.com/ (Chinook Jargon phrasebook/history)