MEOW: disposition for Mousie Hunt Restraining order

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MEOW: disposition for Mousie Hunt Restraining order

Post by Barbara Turne » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00



We solemnly swear that what we are about to say is the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth, so help us Bast.

We, the kitties of Fresno, Texas, arranged to hold the First Annual Mousie Hunt
because of the over-abundance of mice, rats, rabbits, snakes, etc, in the fields
next to our house. At the time, we had just had several of our chickens killed by
rats. The chickens were TORN APART, not eaten, just a vicious attack and disregard
for life by the rats. Our mommy and daddy have determined that it was rats who did
this deed. Also, our friends, the horses who live in the pasture, have had many
problems with the rats, mice, etc. eating thier food, defecating in the food, and
otherwise making nuisences of themselves. We decided to have the hunt in order to
bring the population of these animals under control, not to decimate them.

We stated this in an open post to the birds, gerbils, hamsters, and other small animals
who are part of RPC. We realize that ALL mice, rats, etc. are not the types that we
encounter in the area we live in. We are willing to have these other small animals come
to the Mousie Hunts in the future, and assist any of the mice, rats, and small animals who
may be escaped pets. We will watch for these assistants, and not hinder their efforts.

We wish these small animals to be aware that these wild mice carry diseases that can spread
to the tame mice. We are helping you also with this hunt.

Thank you, Mr. Christofur, for your assistance in this matter.

Patches, Britches, Trouble, and Marmalade
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MEOW: disposition for Mousie Hunt Restraining order

Post by John & Melinda Sherida » Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> We solemnly swear that what we are about to say is the truth, the     > whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help us Bast.
> We, the kitties of Fresno, Texas, arranged to hold the First Annual   > Mousie Hunt because of the over-abundance of mice, rats, rabbits,     > snakes, etc, in the fields  next to our house. At the time, we had    > just had several of our hickens killed by rats. The chickens were TORN > APART, not eaten, just a vicious attack and disregard for life by the > rats. Our mommy and daddy have determined that it was rats who did
> this deed. Also, our friends, the horses who live in the pasture, have > had many problems with the rats, mice, etc. eating thier food,        > defecating in the food, and otherwise making nuisences of themselves. > We decided to have the hunt in order to bring the population of these > animals under control, not to decimate them.
> We stated this in an open post to the birds, gerbils, hamsters, and other small animals
> who are part of RPC. We realize that ALL mice, rats, etc. are not the types that we
> encounter in the area we live in. We are willing to have these other small animals come
> to the Mousie Hunts in the future, and assist any of the mice, rats, and small animals who
> may be escaped pets. We will watch for these assistants, and not hinder their efforts.

> We wish these small animals to be aware that these wild mice carry diseases that can spread
> to the tame mice. We are helping you also with this hunt.

> Thank you, Mr. Christofur, for your assistance in this matter.

> Patches, Britches, Trouble, and Marmalade
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>     / (_..-' // (< |     ;_..__               ; `' / ///
>      / // // //  `-._,_)' // / ``--...____..-' /// / //

Thank you for a most excellent disposition.  I am currently awaiting one
from the other party.  If one is not forthcoming soon, the judge will
undoubtledly rule in your favor.  I am sorry that the hunt seems to have
been plagued by weather problems.  If you can keep this "sub rosa", I
did enjoy a few brisk chases, though ethical considerations for my
status as mediator prevented me from actually, well, I don't think I
need to finish that thought.

Yours,
Christofur, esq.
Cat Attorney-at-Law

 
 
 

MEOW: disposition for Mousie Hunt Restraining order

Post by Alis » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00


I do solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
the truth so help us God.

When I saw the post from the Fresno kitties, they made their statement
sound as though this was just for fun, and if there were no rats or mice
in the fields, they would have just as quickly arranged for a Pet Rodent
Hunt. As a pet gerbil, I felt discriminated against, as though we aren't
as important as cats because we're smaller than them. I felt like they
were being size-ist and species-ist. Perhaps they weren't, but the way
they phrased it bothered me and led me to believe that they had no respect
for us smaller animals. ESPECIALLY when I read that were going to actually
_kill_ the mousies and _eat_ them!

The Fresno kitties say they told us that it was to help keep them under
control. No where in the preliminary message was this indicated. Besides,
Mother Nature knows what she's doing, and she does not need any help from
hoomins, cats, or any other animals. Everyone (at least in the US) knows
about the hoomin controversy over whether some of the wolves should be
killed in order to increase caribou populations. But, the wolves were put
on Earth for a reason. That reason is to keep the population of caribou
under control. If even half of the wolves were killed, the caribou
population would increase so much that there would be too many. As it is,
wolves eat just enough caribou to keep the food chain in synch. Hoomins
are risking throwing off the ways of nature, and that could have horrible
effects.

But enough about wolves and caribou. Believe me, if Mother Nature wanted a
lot of the rats killed, she would do it naturally. She can handle nature
on her own. She knows what she's doing. The cats were risking throwing
nature off again when they had the Mouse Hunt.

You see, your honor, this isn't just about us feeling upset. It _is_ about
that, but there are other issues too!

On another note, just to avoid another suit, I must clarify the "Kitty
Hunt" we rodents and birds and small animals were planning on holding. It
was only to give them a dose of their own medicine. We were NOT EVER
planning on killing or attacking the kitties. All we were going to do was
chase them until we caught them, then say "Now do you like this? I didn't
think so!" and let them go.

Milky Way

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Alison's web page: http://www.moonsgarden.com/~alisonh/index.html
*** Time magazine: http://www.moonsgarden.com/
Kitsen's web page: http://www.moonsgarden.com/
WCC page: http://www.moonsgarden.com/

 
 
 

MEOW: disposition for Mousie Hunt Restraining order

Post by John & Melinda Sherida » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


> > We, the kitties of Fresno, Texas, arranged to hold the First Annual
> > Mousie Hunt because of the over-abundance of mice, rats, rabbits,   > > snakes, etc, in the fields  next to our house. At the time, we had  > > just had several of our chickens killed by rats. The chickens were  > > TORN APART, not eaten, just a vicious attack and disregard for life > > by the rats.
> When I saw the post from the Fresno kitties, they made their statement
> sound as though this was just for fun, and if there were no rats or   > mice in the fields, they would have just as quickly arranged for a Pet > Rodent Hunt. As a pet gerbil, I felt discriminated against, as though > we aren't as important as cats because we're smaller than them. I felt > like they were being size-ist and species-ist. Perhaps they weren't,  > but the way they phrased it bothered me and led me to believe that    > they had no respect for us smaller animals. ESPECIALLY when I read    > that they were going to actually_kill_ the mousies and _eat_ them!

Not having seen the original invitation to The Mousie Hunt, I cannot be
absolutely certain on this point, but what I believe we have here is a
typical case of Interspecies Miscommunication.  Given that the
invitation appears to have been initially extended as a result of the
*** of a number of defenceless chickens by rats, perhaps the use of
imprecise language might be overlooked.  This is covered by the
Righteous Indignation Claws.  More of these unfortunate
misunderstandings might be avoided if more animals of whatever species
learned SSSpurrsqueakpeepanto.  It is my judgement that a clear
disclaimer should be appended to notifications of any future hunts.

The following might make a good starting point for said disclaimer:

Quote:
> > We realize that ALL mice, rats, etc. are not the types that we
> > encounter in the area we live in. We are willing to have these other > > small animals come to the Mousie Hunts in the future, and assist any > > of the mice, rats, and small animals who may be escaped pets. We    > > will watch for these assistants, and not hinder their efforts.
> > Also, our friends, the horses who live in the pasture, have had many > > problems with the rats, mice, etc. eating thier food, defecating in > > the food, and otherwise making nuisences of themselves.  We decided > > to have the hunt in order to bring the population of these animals  > > under control, not to decimate them.

The wild rodents are obviously guilty of Endangerment Of Livelihood,
i.e., they were threatening the food supply of the horses.  This is a
most serious crime.  If several warnings to the miscreants have been
issued and ignored by said party, then the Death Penalty may be
appropriate, especially if the crime has taken place in Texas.  <Guffaw>
(Addendum:  Sorry!  Just a little legal levity.)

Quote:
> The Fresno kitties say they told us that it was to help keep them     > undercontrol. No where in the preliminary message was this indicated. > Besides, Mother Nature knows what she's doing, and she does not need  > any help from hoomins, cats, or any other animals. Everyone (at least > in the US) knows about the hoomin controversy over whether some of the > wolves should be killed in order to increase caribou populations. But, > the wolves were put on Earth for a reason. That reason is to keep the > population of caribou under control. If even half of the wolves were  > killed, the caribou population would increase so much that there would > be too many. As it is, wolves eat just enough caribou to keep the food > chain in synch.

I think that the above argument rather makes the case for the cats.
After all, are they not part of Mother Nature?  If you *** them, do
they not bleed?  Mayhap, had there been more cats, snakes (Hi, Maxine!),
owls, and birds of prey, all exercising their Predatory Rights, the
situation would not have reached crisis proportions.

Quote:
> Hoomins are risking throwing off the ways of nature, and that could   > have horrible effects.

This is a statement that I believe all sides can agree with.

So to sum it all up, I propose that the next invitation to any kind of
hunt, other than the Cadbury Hunt, since there has been no
representation made from a Cadbury, carry a clear disclaimer that other,
smaller animals who maybe pets, are not to be hunted.  This disclaimer
would apply to *only* those that enjoy pet status and would not
neccessarily extend to the wild members of the species.  As
indemnification for any mental anguish caused by the original post, I
would suggest that Milky Way and the others be allowed to have their
Kitty Hunt using the ground rules suggested.

Christofur, esq.
Cat Attorney-at-Law and Judge

 
 
 

MEOW: disposition for Mousie Hunt Restraining order

Post by Barbara Turne » Tue, 17 Sep 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

> So to sum it all up, I propose that the next invitation to any kind of
> hunt, other than the Cadbury Hunt, since there has been no
> representation made from a Cadbury, carry a clear disclaimer that other,
> smaller animals who maybe pets, are not to be hunted.  This disclaimer
> would apply to *only* those that enjoy pet status and would not
> neccessarily extend to the wild members of the species.  As
> indemnification for any mental anguish caused by the original post, I
> would suggest that Milky Way and the others be allowed to have their
> Kitty Hunt using the ground rules suggested.

> Christofur, esq.
> Cat Attorney-at-Law and Judge

Fangu Christofur, fur de wunnderful help yu haf been to us.
We did not put in de paij what de reesun waz fur de Mousie Hunt,
we reelize now dat waz a mistake. However, we did try to rectify
dis by posting uver articles about de hunt.

We R happy wif de way de Hunt turned owt ennyway, an will
gladly refer uver kitties to yu iffn dey need legal help.

Patches, Britches, Trouble, Marmalade

Paw Ess: de remark about Texaws waz wunnderful.. We live der an like
awl kinds uv Texas jokes..:3
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MEOW: disposition for Mousie Hunt Restraining order

Post by John & Melinda Sherida » Thu, 19 Sep 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


> > So to sum it all up, I propose that the next invitation to any kind > > ofhunt, other than the Cadbury Hunt, since there has been no
> > representation made from a Cadbury, carry a clear disclaimer that   > > other, smaller animals who maybe pets, are not to be hunted.  This  > > disclaimer would apply to *only* those that enjoy pet status and    > > would not neccessarily extend to the wild members of the species.   > >
> > As indemnification for any mental anguish caused by the original
> > post, I would suggest that Milky Way and the others be allowed to   > > have their Kitty Hunt using the ground rules suggested.

> > Christofur, esq.
> > Cat Attorney-at-Law and Judge

> Fangu Christofur, fur de wunnderful help yu haf been to us.
> We did not put in de paij what de reesun waz fur de Mousie Hunt,
> we reelize now dat waz a mistake. However, we did try to rectify
> dis by posting uver articles about de hunt.

> We R happy wif de way de Hunt turned owt ennyway, an will
> gladly refer uver kitties to yu iffn dey need legal help.

> Patches, Britches, Trouble, Marmalade

> Paw Ess: de remark about Texaws waz wunnderful.. We live der an like
> awl kinds uv Texas jokes..:3

Sig regretfully snipped for technical reasons.

Fangu.  I was glad that I was able to be of service to both sides in
this unfortunate dispute and that everything seems to have been resolved
peacefully.  It is unfortunate that hoomins can not follow our lead more
frequently.  I am glad I did not offend with the (for me)
uncharacteristic outburst of lawerly jocularity re Texas.  Any referrals
you would care to pass on would be greatly appreciated.

Your friend,
Christofur, esq.
Cat Attorney-at-Law