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(OT) The Deed is Done

Post by jmcquow » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:53:58



The HOA folks weren't willing to wait for their money until the Board meets
again in January :(  Heck, they complained about having to wait until this
week so I could get the money together.  I didn't have much choice.  I went
to the clubhouse today and handed those greedy SOB's a check for my
"membership".  I had to jump through hoops to come up with the money and I'm
still ticked off about it.  The Membership Director didn't look a day over
25.  She apologized all over the place, saying if it had been her decision
she wouldn't have pursued the matter.  But her orders came from higher up.
It was nice of her to say, anyway.

The only benefit (and I use that word lightly) I'll get out of this
membership is being able to have lunch or dinner at the club.  It doesn't
sound like much of a benefit to me, but hey, since I've pre-paid to eat
there (use it or lose it) I guess I'll have to.  I spoke to my neighbor
(owned by Schwartzie & Fedders) and she said the food is "iffy"; sometimes
good, sometimes awful.  (I remember my father used to complain about having
to eat there.  They change chefs about as often as you and I change our
underwear. LOL  No consistency whatsover.  They do have a couple of bars,
though ;)

The rest of the membership fee doesn't cover anything that would remotely
benefit me.  This "social membership" includes 12 tee times, use of the
pool, tennis courts, croquet courts (who the heck plays croquet?!) and the
fitness center.  Okay.  I don't play golf, swim or play tennis.  Croquet is
just laughable since I haven't played it since I was about eight years old.
And I won't be using the fitness center, either.  My idea of fun isn't
riding a stationary bicycle (I have a real one) or using gym equipment.  So
they're getting my money and I'm getting nothing.  But they didn't leave me
any choice.

In a fit of pique I'd claimed here I'd put my house on the market, grossly
undervalued, and move on.  Obviously that's not an option.  I'd still be
responsible for the property taxes, homeowners insurance, SC Wind/Hail
coverage and a flood insurance rider.  The house could sit empty for years
and paying all of that when I didn't even live in it would cost me more than
joining their stupid club.  Score:  HOA 1, Jill 0.

Jill

 
 
 

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Post by MLB » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:09:20



Quote:
> The HOA folks weren't willing to wait for their money until the Board
> meets again in January :( Heck, they complained about having to wait
> until this week so I could get the money together. I didn't have much
> choice. I went to the clubhouse today and handed those greedy SOB's a
> check for my "membership". I had to jump through hoops to come up with
> the money and I'm still ticked off about it. The Membership Director
> didn't look a day over 25. She apologized all over the place, saying if
> it had been her decision she wouldn't have pursued the matter. But her
> orders came from higher up. It was nice of her to say, anyway.

> The only benefit (and I use that word lightly) I'll get out of this
> membership is being able to have lunch or dinner at the club. It doesn't
> sound like much of a benefit to me, but hey, since I've pre-paid to eat
> there (use it or lose it) I guess I'll have to. I spoke to my neighbor
> (owned by Schwartzie & Fedders) and she said the food is "iffy";
> sometimes good, sometimes awful. (I remember my father used to complain
> about having to eat there. They change chefs about as often as you and I
> change our underwear. LOL No consistency whatsover. They do have a
> couple of bars, though ;)

> The rest of the membership fee doesn't cover anything that would
> remotely benefit me. This "social membership" includes 12 tee times, use
> of the pool, tennis courts, croquet courts (who the heck plays
> croquet?!) and the fitness center. Okay. I don't play golf, swim or play
> tennis. Croquet is just laughable since I haven't played it since I was
> about eight years old. And I won't be using the fitness center, either.
> My idea of fun isn't riding a stationary bicycle (I have a real one) or
> using gym equipment. So they're getting my money and I'm getting
> nothing. But they didn't leave me any choice.

> In a fit of pique I'd claimed here I'd put my house on the market,
> grossly undervalued, and move on. Obviously that's not an option. I'd
> still be responsible for the property taxes, homeowners insurance, SC
> Wind/Hail coverage and a flood insurance rider. The house could sit
> empty for years and paying all of that when I didn't even live in it
> would cost me more than joining their stupid club. Score: HOA 1, Jill 0.

> Jill

IMHO how about getting together with residents of a like mind (will take
time) and getting on the board yourself to (hopefully) make future
changes?  MLB
 
 
 

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Post by Divamanq » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:26:04


Quote:

> The HOA folks weren't willing to wait for their money until the Board
> meets again in January :(  Heck, they complained about having to wait
> until this week so I could get the money together.  I didn't have much
> choice.  I went to the clubhouse today and handed those greedy SOB's a
> check for my "membership".  I had to jump through hoops to come up with
> the money and I'm still ticked off about it.  The Membership Director
> didn't look a day over 25.  She apologized all over the place, saying if
> it had been her decision she wouldn't have pursued the matter.  But her
> orders came from higher up. It was nice of her to say, anyway.

Whether thy had a legal claim or not, I think I would have continued to
refuse to pay.  (They might have been able to lien your property, but
they couldn't evict you or force you to sell, could they?)  I don't know
how your TV stations are, there, but both the CBS and NBC affiliates in
Phoenix have an "investigative" department that involves publicizing
situations like yours.  Since most organizations don't really want all
that negative publicity, they often get results.
 
 
 

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Post by jmcquow » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:45:12



Quote:

>> The HOA folks weren't willing to wait for their money until the Board
>> meets again in January :( Heck, they complained about having to wait
>> until this week so I could get the money together. I didn't have much
>> choice. I went to the clubhouse today and handed those greedy SOB's a
>> check for my "membership". I had to jump through hoops to come up with
>> the money and I'm still ticked off about it. The Membership Director
>> didn't look a day over 25. She apologized all over the place, saying if
>> it had been her decision she wouldn't have pursued the matter. But her
>> orders came from higher up. It was nice of her to say, anyway.

>> The only benefit (and I use that word lightly) I'll get out of this
>> membership is being able to have lunch or dinner at the club. It doesn't
>> sound like much of a benefit to me, but hey, since I've pre-paid to eat
>> there (use it or lose it) I guess I'll have to. I spoke to my neighbor
>> (owned by Schwartzie & Fedders) and she said the food is "iffy";
>> sometimes good, sometimes awful. (I remember my father used to complain
>> about having to eat there. They change chefs about as often as you and I
>> change our underwear. LOL No consistency whatsover. They do have a
>> couple of bars, though ;)

>> The rest of the membership fee doesn't cover anything that would
>> remotely benefit me. This "social membership" includes 12 tee times, use
>> of the pool, tennis courts, croquet courts (who the heck plays
>> croquet?!) and the fitness center. Okay. I don't play golf, swim or play
>> tennis. Croquet is just laughable since I haven't played it since I was
>> about eight years old. And I won't be using the fitness center, either.
>> My idea of fun isn't riding a stationary bicycle (I have a real one) or
>> using gym equipment. So they're getting my money and I'm getting
>> nothing. But they didn't leave me any choice.

>> In a fit of pique I'd claimed here I'd put my house on the market,
>> grossly undervalued, and move on. Obviously that's not an option. I'd
>> still be responsible for the property taxes, homeowners insurance, SC
>> Wind/Hail coverage and a flood insurance rider. The house could sit
>> empty for years and paying all of that when I didn't even live in it
>> would cost me more than joining their stupid club. Score: HOA 1, Jill 0.

>> Jill

> IMHO how about getting together with residents of a like mind (will take
> time) and getting on the board yourself to (hopefully) make future
> changes?  MLB

How would I know who are of a like mind?  I really only know one neighbor
here, and she takes advantage of the membership.  She uses the pool, she
uses the fitness center.  Every time her family comes to town she takes them
to the club for lunch and dinner (she hates to cook).  I wouldn't feel
comfortable knocking on doors asking people if they would prefer to opt out
of club membership.  These people are strangers to me.  Nope, I wouldn't be
comfortable doing that.

Jill

 
 
 

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Post by MLB » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:03:45



Quote:




>>> The HOA folks weren't willing to wait for their money until the Board
>>> meets again in January :( Heck, they complained about having to wait
>>> until this week so I could get the money together. I didn't have much
>>> choice. I went to the clubhouse today and handed those greedy SOB's a
>>> check for my "membership". I had to jump through hoops to come up with
>>> the money and I'm still ticked off about it. The Membership Director
>>> didn't look a day over 25. She apologized all over the place, saying if
>>> it had been her decision she wouldn't have pursued the matter. But her
>>> orders came from higher up. It was nice of her to say, anyway.

>>> The only benefit (and I use that word lightly) I'll get out of this
>>> membership is being able to have lunch or dinner at the club. It doesn't
>>> sound like much of a benefit to me, but hey, since I've pre-paid to eat
>>> there (use it or lose it) I guess I'll have to. I spoke to my neighbor
>>> (owned by Schwartzie & Fedders) and she said the food is "iffy";
>>> sometimes good, sometimes awful. (I remember my father used to complain
>>> about having to eat there. They change chefs about as often as you and I
>>> change our underwear. LOL No consistency whatsover. They do have a
>>> couple of bars, though ;)

>>> The rest of the membership fee doesn't cover anything that would
>>> remotely benefit me. This "social membership" includes 12 tee times, use
>>> of the pool, tennis courts, croquet courts (who the heck plays
>>> croquet?!) and the fitness center. Okay. I don't play golf, swim or play
>>> tennis. Croquet is just laughable since I haven't played it since I was
>>> about eight years old. And I won't be using the fitness center, either.
>>> My idea of fun isn't riding a stationary bicycle (I have a real one) or
>>> using gym equipment. So they're getting my money and I'm getting
>>> nothing. But they didn't leave me any choice.

>>> In a fit of pique I'd claimed here I'd put my house on the market,
>>> grossly undervalued, and move on. Obviously that's not an option. I'd
>>> still be responsible for the property taxes, homeowners insurance, SC
>>> Wind/Hail coverage and a flood insurance rider. The house could sit
>>> empty for years and paying all of that when I didn't even live in it
>>> would cost me more than joining their stupid club. Score: HOA 1, Jill 0.

>>> Jill

>> IMHO how about getting together with residents of a like mind (will
>> take time) and getting on the board yourself to (hopefully) make
>> future changes? MLB

> How would I know who are of a like mind? I really only know one neighbor
> here, and she takes advantage of the membership. She uses the pool, she
> uses the fitness center. Every time her family comes to town she takes
> them to the club for lunch and dinner (she hates to cook). I wouldn't
> feel comfortable knocking on doors asking people if they would prefer to
> opt out of club membership. These people are strangers to me. Nope, I
> wouldn't be comfortable doing that.

> Jill

In this condo, people walk for exercise.  That also is a good way to
meet and greet neighbors.  When you meet someone new, ask a few simple
questions like "how do you like it here?"  or  "how would you change the
rules if you could?".    It might be worth the effort.  Best wishes.   MLB
 
 
 

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Post by nik Simpso » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:43:41


Do you have some suitably "redneck" friends that you could invite over
to play golf, I have visions of Caddyshack ;-)

--
Nik Simpson

 
 
 

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Post by jmcquow » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:46:25



Quote:
> Do you have some suitably "redneck" friends that you could invite over to
> play golf, I have visions of Caddyshack ;-)

> --
> Nik Simpson

LOLOL!  There's a thought!  Too bad I don't know anyone like that.

Jill

 
 
 

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Post by Yowi » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:10:02



Quote:



>> Do you have some suitably "redneck" friends that you could invite over
>> to play golf, I have visions of Caddyshack ;-)

>> --
>> Nik Simpson

> LOLOL! There's a thought! Too bad I don't know anyone like that.

The answer's obvious then:

RPCA party at Jill's place. Yeee-Hahhhh!

Yowie <g,d&r>

 
 
 

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Post by jmcquow » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:50:24



Quote:



>>> Do you have some suitably "redneck" friends that you could invite over
>>> to play golf, I have visions of Caddyshack ;-)

>>> --
>>> Nik Simpson

>> LOLOL! There's a thought! Too bad I don't know anyone like that.

> The answer's obvious then:

> RPCA party at Jill's place. Yeee-Hahhhh!

> Yowie <g,d&r>

Fabulous idea!  I'll take you all to dinner at the Club! LOL

Jill

 
 
 

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Post by Yowi » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:40:25



Quote:






>>>>> Do you have some suitably "redneck" friends that you could invite over
>>>>> to play golf, I have visions of Caddyshack ;-)
>>>>> Nik Simpson

>>>> LOLOL! There's a thought! Too bad I don't know anyone like that.

>>> The answer's obvious then:
>>> RPCA party at Jill's place. Yeee-Hahhhh!
>>> Yowie<g,d&r>

>> Fabulous idea!  I'll take you all to dinner at the Club! LOL
>> Jill

> Snork. No redneck friends? I *beg* your pardon....after we chow down,
> can't wait to be introduced
> to your HOA Board officers.....and tip a Mad Dog 20/20 with them. You
> *are* in the South now, ain'cha?

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjVNlG5cZyQ

*Chink* Raised my glass!

Yowie

 
 
 

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Post by jmcquow » Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:08:54



Quote:






>> >>> Do you have some suitably "redneck" friends that you could invite
>> >>> over
>> >>> to play golf, I have visions of Caddyshack ;-)
>> >>> Nik Simpson

>> >> LOLOL! There's a thought! Too bad I don't know anyone like that.

>> > The answer's obvious then:
>> > RPCA party at Jill's place. Yeee-Hahhhh!
>> > Yowie <g,d&r>

>> Fabulous idea!  I'll take you all to dinner at the Club! LOL
>> Jill

> Snork. No redneck friends? I *beg* your pardon....after we chow down,
> can't wait to be introduced to your HOA Board officers.....and tip a Mad
> Dog 20/20 with them. You
> *are* in the South now, ain'cha?

I don't know what Florida was like, but I live in the very *genteel* south
:)  People on these islands are so polite it's a bit hard to get used to.
Memphis was never like this.  People there were rude and pushy.  I was
raised better than that and so were the people who grew up around here.

MD 20/20?  Sorry, I've heard of it but have never tasted it.  I do remember
Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill ;)  We are unlikely to be invited to a meeting
of the Board. LOL

Jill

 
 
 

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Post by dgk » Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:17:42




Quote:






>>>> Do you have some suitably "redneck" friends that you could invite over
>>>> to play golf, I have visions of Caddyshack ;-)

>>>> --
>>>> Nik Simpson

>>> LOLOL! There's a thought! Too bad I don't know anyone like that.

>> The answer's obvious then:

>> RPCA party at Jill's place. Yeee-Hahhhh!

>> Yowie <g,d&r>

>Fabulous idea!  I'll take you all to dinner at the Club! LOL

>Jill

I'd take advantage as long as I had to pay. I'm of an age (almost 60)
that I do need to do things to keep fit. I bike a lot, so I don't need
a stationary bike, but I love taking gym classes (Fat-Burning Pilate,
Total Conditioning, etc). I can't really keep up with the 20 year old
women, but there are a few older guys like me that do our best. And
I'm in the best shape I've been in 30 years.

Take a few golf lessons and try it. I'm not very good (decent at
tennis though) but it is sort of fun to hit the ball and try to get it
in the cup. And you get to meet people.

In many cases, the clubs are a big draw for folks to buy the houses.
Yes, you have to pay a fee, but the house prices are higher because
many people want the club experience. My mother's development has very
expensive tennis courts and they're paid for by everyone's dues,
whether they play or not. But many people move in because they have
such good tennis courts so everyone benefits. If people stopped paying
to maintain the courts (and the Pro), housing prices would drop.

 
 
 

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Post by jmcquow » Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:49:52



Quote:







>>>>> Do you have some suitably "redneck" friends that you could invite over
>>>>> to play golf, I have visions of Caddyshack ;-)

>>>>> --
>>>>> Nik Simpson

>>>> LOLOL! There's a thought! Too bad I don't know anyone like that.

>>> The answer's obvious then:

>>> RPCA party at Jill's place. Yeee-Hahhhh!

>>> Yowie <g,d&r>

>>Fabulous idea!  I'll take you all to dinner at the Club! LOL

>>Jill

> I'd take advantage as long as I had to pay. I'm of an age (almost 60)
> that I do need to do things to keep fit. I bike a lot, so I don't need
> a stationary bike, but I love taking gym classes (Fat-Burning Pilate,
> Total Conditioning, etc). I can't really keep up with the 20 year old
> women, but there are a few older guys like me that do our best. And
> I'm in the best shape I've been in 30 years.

Congratulations!  I have a real bicycle :)  I think I'll stick with that.
When I was in my 20's a friend tried to get me interested in working out,
aerobics, etc.  I didn't like it then and I know I won't like it now.  (BTW,
I still weigh about the same as I did then.)

Quote:
> Take a few golf lessons and try it. I'm not very good (decent at
> tennis though) but it is sort of fun to hit the ball and try to get it
> in the cup. And you get to meet people.

Oh, my dear...  surely you jest!  I don't have the slightest interest in
playing golf.  I grew up with a father who was obsessed with it; that's how
I wound up with a house with a golf green in my back yard.  I'm not about to
spend more money buying golf clubs.  Or a golf cart.  (These folks don't
walk the golf course, they ride.)   I'm just not interested.  For the most
part, I'm a recluse.  I really have no interest in meeting anyone.  I just
want to be left alone to read my books, futz around on the newsgroups and
play with Persia :)

Jill

 
 
 

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Post by bastXXXe.. » Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:44:27


 > Oh, my dear...  surely you jest!  I don't have the slightest interest in
 > playing golf.  I grew up with a father who was obsessed with it; that's how
 > I wound up with a house with a golf green in my back yard.

Do you at least have a nice view? A couple of friends bought a house that
happens to be situated next to a golf course. They aren't part of an HOA,
it's just a regular neighborhood, but they got lucky. A field with trees
right next to their back deck, and they don't have to pay to maintain it.

Does the golf course get any interesting wildlife? (I'm not talking about
your neighbors. :))

 > I'm not about to
 > spend more money buying golf clubs.  Or a golf cart.  (These folks don't
 > walk the golf course, they ride.)   I'm just not interested.

I can't think of a more boring game myself. I might have been more interested
if I had the tiniest bit of aptitude for sports that require aim, but I truly
suck at all of them. Mini-golf was a mini-trauma for me during childhood. :)
(Well, it *was* kind of humiliating that everyone else could play normally,
if not expertly, and I couldn't get a single ball in the hole, ever. I can't
aim worth a damn.)

 > For the most
 > part, I'm a recluse.  I really have no interest in meeting anyone.  I just
 > want to be left alone to read my books, futz around on the newsgroups and
 > play with Persia :)

Someday, people will understand this basic fact about you. And they'll
also understand that nothing's wrong with you just because you're an
introvert. It's just one of the many natural human temperaments.

--
Joyce

I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better
for it.                                    -- Abraham Lincoln

 
 
 

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Post by jmcquow » Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:10:25



Quote:

> > Oh, my dear...  surely you jest!  I don't have the slightest interest in
> > playing golf.  I grew up with a father who was obsessed with it; that's
> > how
> > I wound up with a house with a golf green in my back yard.

> Do you at least have a nice view? A couple of friends bought a house that
> happens to be situated next to a golf course. They aren't part of an HOA,
> it's just a regular neighborhood, but they got lucky. A field with trees
> right next to their back deck, and they don't have to pay to maintain it.

No, sorry.  The view is golfers.  Or early morning people mowing the
fairways and the green.

Quote:
> Does the golf course get any interesting wildlife? (I'm not talking about
> your neighbors. :))

I feed birds on the patio so I see the occasional interesting bird.  Just
the other day a mockingbird was splish-splashing in the bird bath.  In the
summer there are hummingbirds and this time of year I occasionally see blue
jays and cardinals.

I did have an alligator in my back yard last June. LOL  And occasionally
deer will come around or at least run through my yard.  I did have to take
the bird feeder down and start scattering seed instead of having***
feeders due to raccoons.

Quote:
> > I'm not about to
> > spend more money buying golf clubs.  Or a golf cart.  (These folks don't
> > walk the golf course, they ride.)   I'm just not interested.

> I can't think of a more boring game myself.

It's pretty darned boring, that's for sure.

Quote:
> > For the most part, I'm a recluse.  I really have no interest in meeting
> > anyone.  I just
> > want to be left alone to read my books, futz around on the newsgroups
> > and
> > play with Persia :)

> Someday, people will understand this basic fact about you. And they'll
> also understand that nothing's wrong with you just because you're an
> introvert. It's just one of the many natural human temperaments.

> --
> Joyce

That's the word I was looking for!  Introvert.  I don't need or want a wide
social circle.  Good lord, then people would expect me to go places with
them. LOL

Jill